Quitting Team Trilogy

[in4d]

Are you aware of Dynamic Discs distribution center?

Are you aware that at least half that cut of profit is going to Europe because that's where the company is based?

I'm done reading this thread by the way, arguing with fools would only make me a fool myself.

opcorn:

 

[smyith]

I'm done reading this thread by the way, arguing with fools would only make me a fool myself.

i think you handled that all by yourself

 

[tampabay]

Are you aware that at least half that cut of profit is going to Europe because that's where the company is based?

I'm done reading this thread by the way, arguing with fools would only make me a fool myself.

opcorn:

Again, making a statement and then refusing discussion. Very poor attempt at proving a point. You have yet to actually give any source for your facts, defend your claims, or provide any weight to your point.

I'm sorry, but you have very little to stand on.

 

[bfowler]

I'm sorry, but you have very little to stand on.

He's standing on truth, justice and the 'Merican way. He's standing on the foundation our forefathers bleed for.

He's standing on freedom.

FREEEEEDOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!

 

[UCF_Knight]

Are you aware that at least half that cut of profit is going to Europe because that's where the company is based?

I'm done reading this thread by the way, arguing with fools would only make me a fool myself.

opcorn:

Dynamic is based in Europe? lol Rusco sure hides his accent well.

I have no idea of the inner workings of Dynamic/Lat64 agreement but I'd bet Dynamic is actually "stealing" some of Lat's profit and bringing it back to the US.

 

[SuperBurrito]

Bet'cha all the discs in my bag he's not "done reading this thread by the way". Bringing up an argument your not prepared to argue seems foolish, but I digress.

With regards to Innova, is the perception that they don't put enough back into the sport? I know they sponsor many events and some players but are they being vastly outdone by other companies when it comes to promoting the sport?

Honestly, if I do end up supporting dg in other countries and they make cool courses with the money I just have more reason to visit and give those courses a go. Supporting the sport in any manner seems like a win-win to me.

 

[smyith]

With regards to Innova, is the perception that they don't put enough back into the sport? I know they sponsor many events and some players but are they being vastly outdone by other companies when it comes to promoting the sport?

/shrug
Innova has never seemed like slouches in the way they support. maybe they could do "more" but they definitely dont do anything less than their competitors, and honestly probably outshine them in the overall. they just dont make as big a deal out of it as other companies do. at least thats my perception.

Honestly, if I do end up supporting dg in other countries and they make cool courses with the money I just have more reason to visit and give those courses a go. Supporting the sport in any manner seems like a win-win to me.

:clap:

 

[Puckstopper]

In the end, life in the USA would be better off if we all bought more products from companies who manufacture products within the US.

Fixed this for you. In the end, when you buy from an overseas company as opposed to a US based company more of the money ends up overseas. Yes, we live in a global society, and Fords will have Mexican and Chinese parts. But the company that profits from your purchase is here in the US, spending money in the US on engineers, materials specialists, other forms of research and development and all sorts of other good quality white collar jobs that we want to keep here. Not to mention the supply chain that feeds that auto industry and provides thousands of blue collar jobs that we also need to keep here. You can bash In4D all you want (feel free, I'm not a fan either) but he's right about this. When we ship our jobs and money overseas we end up with a deteriorating quality of life (like we have RIGHT NOW!).

Do what you want, I can't help you see if you're blind. As for me, I will continue to buy American products whenever and wherever they are an option, and will vote with my dollars on decisions like the one Walgreens is currently contemplating (http://abc7chicago.com/business/walgreens-headquarters-relocation-plan-meets-opposition/217286/). CVS has been getting my business since I heard the story above.

 

[btothej89]

thats all you got out of his comments? he had alot more to say then just that.
about the 10:10 mark if i remember right.

Of course not, i watched the whole thing. I was just trying to sound as dramatic as possible, because this entire discussion is just senseless. At least let me have some fun while reading through all of this :hfive:

 

[UCF_Knight]

Bet'cha all the discs in my bag he's not "done reading this thread by the way". Bringing up an argument your not prepared to argue seems foolish, but I digress.

With regards to Innova, is the perception that they don't put enough back into the sport? I know they sponsor many events and some players but are they being vastly outdone by other companies when it comes to promoting the sport?

Honestly, if I do end up supporting dg in other countries and they make cool courses with the money I just have more reason to visit and give those courses a go. Supporting the sport in any manner seems like a win-win to me.

/shrug
Innova has never seemed like slouches in the way they support. maybe they could do "more" but they definitely dont do anything less than their competitors, and honestly probably outshine them in the overall. they just dont make as big a deal out of it as other companies do. at least thats my perception.



:clap:

I wasn't going Anti-Innova with my statement, just used the first name he stated and likely biggest name in the game. I was just trying to point out that using Lat putting money into the game in Europe as a negative was ridiculous if you couldn't show me where American companies were doing something similar. I don't blame any companies for not dropping tons of money to grow the game, it's a business! Chances are the money an established company puts in at this point is not going to generate enough new business to make it worth it. If making discs isn't profitable who's gonna do it?

 

[spinachd]

The interesting segment in that video is about 15:30 to 18:00. The comment about the number of junior players really strikes a chord with me. That is the key difference.

 

[Dan Ensor]

These two statements say so much about you that the rest of your post is nearly meaningless. It's not the discs, or the manufacturer, its you. As long as you are buying discs that you don't need (and don't apparently even know why you don't need them) just because you think you need to carry all of a certain manufacturer's discs, you might as well just pick the discs with the coolest names.

Learn the game. Have a specific reason for buying a specific disc. If you have all the discs that you think you need, and backups in case you throw one in the water during a tournament, then stop buying more discs and play more.

Seems like a couple of hours of team building would fix both of those issues. You think Feldberg, or even his area coordinator type doesn't know these things? They could probably help him improve his form. But he's just a random name and number in the crowd. So who cares if all he knows is how to push product? If he quits dg, it was still a win for TT.


By the way: BEST THREAD EVER!!!

 

[DatRedDude]

I have never assisted with puting in a course so take this with a few thousand grains of salt. Is it easier to get a course put in, in some of the countries in question? Seems to me that they are way more receptive to the sport of disc golf then they are here in the US.

I play in leagues and locals and to hear the steps clubs/people have to go thru to get a course in seems nightmarrish at times. I know in my area, the city of Indianapolis does not put any money toward said courses, it is up to the club to put in and maintain the course outside of mowing grass and general upkeep of a local park.

 

[DatRedDude]

Fixed this for you. In the end, when you buy from an overseas company as opposed to a US based company more of the money ends up overseas. Yes, we live in a global society, and Fords will have Mexican and Chinese parts. But the company that profits from your purchase is here in the US, spending money in the US on engineers, materials specialists, other forms of research and development and all sorts of other good quality white collar jobs that we want to keep here. Not to mention the supply chain that feeds that auto industry and provides thousands of blue collar jobs that we also need to keep here. You can bash In4D all you want (feel free, I'm not a fan either) but he's right about this. When we ship our jobs and money overseas we end up with a deteriorating quality of life (like we have RIGHT NOW!).

Do what you want, I can't help you see if you're blind. As for me, I will continue to buy American products whenever and wherever they are an option, and will vote with my dollars on decisions like the one Walgreens is currently contemplating (http://abc7chicago.com/business/walgreens-headquarters-relocation-plan-meets-opposition/217286/). CVS has been getting my business since I heard the story above.

Isn't walgreens an american based company? So if everyone did this wouldn't walgreens go out of business which in turn many americans would lose thier jobs? seems kind of counter productive.

 

[Flip Hyzerman]

Weird - one of your biggest marketers on this board (unpaid of course) tried to tell us that Maury Reynolds and crew had nothing to do with Team Trilogy. I think lil Maury has single handedly destroyed alot of the 'Trilogy' rep here in the USA.

It was a group effort, 4 Americans, 1 Canuck (yes, me), 1 Swede and 1 Fin.

 

[Darth Anovin]

Weird - one of your biggest marketers on this board (unpaid of course) tried to tell us that Maury Reynolds and crew had nothing to do with Team Trilogy. I think lil Maury has single handedly destroyed alot of the 'Trilogy' rep here in the USA.

What does that even mean?

 

[KGroff25]

I have never assisted with puting in a course so take this with a few thousand grains of salt. Is it easier to get a course put in, in some of the countries in question? Seems to me that they are way more receptive to the sport of disc golf then they are here in the US.

I play in leagues and locals and to hear the steps clubs/people have to go thru to get a course in seems nightmarrish at times. I know in my area, the city of Indianapolis does not put any money toward said courses, it is up to the club to put in and maintain the course outside of mowing grass and general upkeep of a local park.

I have played disc golf in Stockholm, Germany, and the UK all while living in London.

It's important to note that the attitude towards and presence of disc golf is much different in the Norse countries than the rest of Europe.

There are beautiful well maintained disc golf courses on multi sport complexes throughout the Norse Countries. However, disc golf courses in the rest of Europe are few and far between. The club in London has fought tooth and nail to install just one course and keep it in. They've had their baskets bashed in, set on fire, chains cut, etc. and they are still only allowed to mow the course twice a year and have to fight endless bureaucracy and thousand year old land use laws to install things like tee mats and signposts.

Land in most of Europe is extremely limited and valuable (hence fighting so many wars to expand borders) and was developed for other uses hundreds or thousands of years ago. If you thought our American nimbys were bad, trying arguing with someone that doesn't want a disc golf course installed on property that was a king's hunting grounds several hundred years ago. Additionally, open space is so rare that winning the rights to use it for anything other than soccer, rugby, and cricket ptiches, traditional golf courses, or gardens is near impossible.

 

[Sir Puttsalot]

KGroff, what exactly are multi sport complexes?

 

[tampabay]

KGroff, what exactly are multi sport complexes?

They have them in the states as well, I know in the southeast at least. In GA they have complexes where they will have 5 soccer fields, 4 baseball fields, a track, 4 tennis courts, 4 basketball courts, and a disc golf course. They are pretty insane if you haven't seen one before.

 

[KGroff25]

Here's an example:

http://translate.google.com/transla...ent=ubuntu&hs=Vum&channel=fs&biw=1280&bih=859

http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=2369&mode=ci

Frome the website:

"Visättra Sportcenter is Stockholm's largest sports facility. Options include floor hockey, hockey, soccer, jogging and cross-country trails, boulehall frisbee course and more. There is also, next to the ice rink, Sweden's first built BMX hall. "

As far as I can tell they're basically like full service and super nice city parks. Except with proffesional quality soccer fields, ice hocky rinks, disc golf courses, cross country skiing trails, etc. I would assume they're funded by the government, not Latitude 64 or any other disc company. So if you need something to be jealous of it should be their heavily socialized economic system and the public goods it provides, not a disc company.