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Sioux Passage - Original

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discdoh
Experience: 30.8 years 4 played 3 reviews
4.50 star(s)

Play Sioux in the Lou! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Dec 10, 2011 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

- A beautiful layout through a pristine park. It feels like a complete privilege to have this course in my hometown. It is a course that continues to get me exited every single time I play it.
- Rolling hills, natural grassland areas, beautiful hardwood trees (the fall leaves are awesome), and plenty of wildlife to enjoy in between shots.
- Generally speaking, this is a low traffic course. You shouldn't have to worry about it being crowded...unless there is a tournament going on.
- With 3 or more basket positions per hole, there is a ton of variety. The course can vary from just plain challenging to downright difficult. Vary rarely should you expect the course to be laid out in its easiest setting, so getting a good score will always prove a challenge.
- Baskets are straight, true, and moved on a regular basis.
- Nicely textured concrete tee pads.
- Trash cans on every hole.
- Great kiosk that is full of information and scorecards.
- Bar none, the best bathroom facility that I have EVER seen in a county park! It has auto-flush, auto-wash, auto-dry everything, is open year round, and even smells good.

Cons:

- Poor tee signage. They only offer the distances for the various basket positions and indicate which position is being used with a bolt. New signs are in the works as I write this, so this should only be an issue for a short while longer (before STLO '12?). In the meantime, print up a map or figure out the map that is printed on every scorecard.
- The separation of the front 9 and back 9. There is a 500 yard walk from basket 9 to hole 10, and a 500 yard walk back from basket 18 to the parking lot (up a hill). Or you can just get in your car after hole 9 and drive down to the parking lot at hole 10. I am lazy.
- Slight lack of benches. There are benches here and there, but, for the most part, you will want to bring something to sit on if you are playing in a larger group.

Other Thoughts:

This is probably the crown jewel of the greater St. Louis area courses. Most locals agree that this course has something special about it that separates it from Jefferson Barracks, Endicott, and the other awesome courses in the area. As soon as you drive through the gates, it is immediately apparent that this park is maintained a grade above most others. The grass is never long, the fallen branches are mostly non-existent, and the leaves are always taken care of.

Around 2006, on the back 9, the parks decided to save some tax dollars and develop a few natural grassland areas. This has actually increased the appeal of the back 9. Just make sure to avoid the tall grass! The grass can get to above head high in certain zones. It will gobble up your piece of CE and spit out road-rashed DX. Just make sure you put your number on it before you throw it...the regulars here tend to be a little more seasoned and try to get things back.

As beautiful as the course is, it tends to get a lot less traffic than the other, more centrally located, courses in the area. Most times that you play the course, you will feel like you have it to yourself. Be sure to visit the www.stlouisdiscgolfclub.com discussion board to set up a group if it is your first time playing.

Occasionally, the local club sets up an additional 18 hole temp layout. This is usually for The Match Play Championships, The Club Championships, and maybe 1 more event per year. It is worth checking out as well.
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Mind Expansi0n
Experience: 13.1 years 13 played 9 reviews
4.50 star(s)

DG Heaven in the STL 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Nov 17, 2011 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Good signage for individual holes (bring a map to find the 'next' hole), high quality baskets, fairly fresh teepads, amazing hilly/rolling land that the designers made great use of, an extremely diverse course in terms of shots needed to score well, beautiful well spaced trees, very little trash and many provided trash cans, really fun downhill bomb shots and big changes in elevation to aid distance.

Cons:

Very few cons - but as with many courses it may be tough to find the next hole 'quickly' if you are a first timer here. Take a map. The course may be a bit hilly and physically challenging for those who have trouble with steep hills. A little bit of non DG traffic, but the park is big enough that it isn't really an issue.

Other Thoughts:

Difficulty: Intermediate - Pro. I think a DG noobie might find this a bit daunting - this course almost demands driving control and a distance of 250ft+. This is an excellent, fun, pro level course with some of the coolest hills and most prestine 'wooded' areas you'll ever find on a DG course. The signature hole is #13 (a massive 600ft downhill), but the shots across the natural valley on the front 9 are equally fun. Definitely a course worth driving out of your way for - and it's often a quiet, low-traffic course.
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SIQWON-STL
Experience: 16.9 years 11 played 3 reviews
4.50 star(s)

one of the best 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Oct 16, 2011 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

always well maintained. throwing a 500'+ shot is possible for everyone here on 13. its a great place to let 'em rip.

Cons:

other than there are no benches anywhere in this park its one of my favorites. it would be nice to sit down with all the hill climbing you do.

Other Thoughts:

a must play in the STL metro area!
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j_wilcut
Experience: 13.5 years 20 played 1 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Sioux Passage 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Oct 13, 2011 Played the course:once

Pros:

An amazing course that was extremely well maintained. This entire course is beautiful especially on a fall day. Hole 13 was awesome. There were trash bins at every hole I believe.

Cons:

It was really wind. But thats just the nature of the game.
One true con would be that there weren't any benches at the tee pads. Its always nice to take a rest from time to time.

Other Thoughts:

This course is a must play if you are in the STL area.
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Martin Dewgarita
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 14.3 years 1559 played 93 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Dreams of an ancient memory 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 14, 2011 Played the course:once

Pros:

A mostly open city park with good use of elevation and some technical lines. An enjoyable disc golf experience, especially if you like big open bombs with a few tighter holes.

Amenities. Shelter, playground, bathrooms, and plenty of parking (the upper lot was small, with plenty of parking down below).

Overall Variety. The front 9 has a good variety of open shots and tight technical shots. The back 9 has many mature clumps of trees that force more open lines. Elevation comes into play on many of the holes very well, with several big bombs off the top of a hill. Overall the holes compliment each other quite well, but it feels mostly like a big arm course.

Well kept. Littering seems to have been a problem here in the past as there's signs posted that tell disc golfers to please not litter. Garbage cans are provided and the park staff are constantly present, the course is very well manicured and kept looking nice.

Local Scene. Local leagues and tournaments are a regular occurrence here, the locals I encountered were all friendly and helpful.

Access. In the city, not far off the freeway it's easy to get to.

Other users. This area seems to be primarily a disc golf course, though the parking lot and road come into play.

Tees. Single set of level concrete tee pads are in good shape.

Signage. Decent signs read the hole number, and distance for the different pin positions.

Scorecards. I'll leave this in the pro section as there was a box provided for scorecards, though I don't know how well it is stocked as it was empty while I was there.

Cons:

Navigation. It wasn't always easy to know where the basket was or which basket to throw at. Hole 11 I ended up throwing at the wrong basket (the correct basket was to the right and shorter). Some areas a next tee sign would be helpful, or having a map posted at the start would be useful (maybe the scorecards have maps if they're available?)

I had no prior knowledge of this course and I was lost after the front 9. There was no indication after the front 9 where the back 9 was located, I ended up having to ask a local (obviously if you've read any reviews or the course info page you know by now how to get there and it won't be a problem).

Alternate pin locations. There was a list posted at the start to indicate which pin placement was in, unless you have a great memory or a camera, this information is hardly helpful.

Other Thoughts:

A very pleasant disc golf experience in St. Louis, if you like mostly open lines and watching the disc fly on big lines, this is a fun, challenging course worth the stop if you're in the area.
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Tyler V
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Premium Member
Experience: 16.7 years 146 played 95 reviews
4.00 star(s)

A Tough, Long, Open Course That Will Challenge Intermediate To Advanced Players 2+ years

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Oct 9, 2021 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Sioux Passage's original disc golf course is full of hills, long fairways, and opportunities to rip drivers. This course is among the older courses in St. Louis, being installed in the mid 90's, and remains a fun place to play disc golf even as newer and arguably better courses pop up in the area.

Location of Sioux Passage is just about the northern most tip of St. Louis County, being up against the Missouri River not far from its junction with the Mississippi. It's not the most straightforward course to get to, but it is close enough to courses in Alton or North County to make it part of a potential full day of course bagging. This was also the first park in the area to get a second 18 hole, with the shorter Biscoe Woods course making for a full 36-hole complex. Gas and food options aren't super close to the park, but you're sure to pass some as you make you way to the park.

Park Amenities within Sioux Passage's large property include bathrooms, water fountains, tennis courts, a basketball court, fishing (follow Missouri Wildlife Code), two playgrounds, a boat dock, hiking/walking trails, and horseback trails (B.Y.O.H). This park is also considered a winter park complex, with parts of the park being used for sledding, snow moiling, and cross-country skiing. Camping sites and 3 reservable shelters are also scattered around the park.

Course Equipment is all still in good shape at Sioux Passage despite some age showing. I'm not sure when signage was upgraded at this course, but it's a big step above what was here before. Each sign has a hole layout, pin locations, pars, distances, next tee locations, and a marker to note which pin is in use. The baskets are older Mach 3s, but I haven't had an issue with them yet in my rounds here. The tee pads are all concrete and are long enough for most run ups by people who aren't James Conrad.

Course Design at Sioux Passage is mainly long, open, and hilly, with plenty of opportunities to rip different shot shapes with the drivers in your bag. This course also takes the double loop design to a new level, with the front and back 9s being separated by a short drive. This helps maximize space to keep from trying to cram 18 holes in a smaller plot. Overall, if you are a fan of mixed terrain and a variety of uphill and downhill shots, you will be at home at Sioux Passage.

Variety is present in many ways at Sioux Passage. The front 9 is mostly a mix of longer open fairways, sprinkled with some more technical shots like on holes 7 and 9. Holes 4 and 8 also have pin locations within the tree line, requiring you to hit a RHBH hyzer at the right distance to challenge for a birdie. The back 9 is more extreme with elevation, with the first half of this area being pure downhill or uphill shots. While there are some more technical aspects to the back 9, most of it is more open, and requires you to hit certain drive angles to avoid tree lines or unforgiving prairie.

Course Difficulty probably best suits those who are intermediate and up in skill. The distances alone on this course make for a taxing round if you don't have much arm speed. There are also added obstacles that could also make for a difficult time for newer players, such as tough tee shots like on hole 9, or the prairie grass that is present around the last 5 holes of the course.

Course Highlights - Hole 13 has to be mentioned, as this is a 380 to 560-ish foot downhill hole has nothing in your way. With a treeline way to the right and a street to the left being your only obstacles, this is a hole where you will be very tempted to empty your bag. Definitely one of the most fun holes in St. Louis in my opinion. Hole 9 also comes to mind, being a tough 200-ish foot uphill shot through woods followed by another 250-ish feet to the pin, requiring two well placed and different shots to get a good score.

Cons:

Course Equipment isn't in bad shape, per say, but is showing its age. The baskets are clearly older, and with many other courses in the area getting upgrades or new installations recently, it'll be nice to see Sioux Passage get it's turn soon. Hole 16 is also missing a tee sign; luckily, this is one of the more straightforward holes on the course so even if you don't have UDisc, you can figure out what to do.

Prairie Grass and Other Obstacles can be a con for many on this course. The prairie grass on the back 9 can be very unforgiving when it's fully grown in, and any errant throw can easily lead to a lost disc, even if it doesn't leave the fairway by much. The is also poison ivy around, both in the prairie grass and other wooded areas, so be careful looking for discs after bad shots.

Physical Demands of this course may keep disc golfers with mobility issues or less stamina from having a good time. The front 9 has some hills to be sure, but the back 9 especially will test your legs if you don't exercise much. There's also not a lot of shade on this course, especially in the back 9, so St. Louis Summers can certainly compound the physical demands. Make sure you hydrate if you're tackling this course, especially in July or August. My friend and I tend to be on the quicker side on casual rounds, and this course took us 2 and a half hours to complete.

Course Design may have some cons for folks depending on preferences. The course plays essentially as two separate 9 holes, with the two sets of 9 being a far enough that walking isn't worth it. There is parking at both 9-hole locations, but some may find this to be excessive in the middle of a round. I personally welcome the break before hiking up hole 10. Also, while there are some shorter holes among the original 18, they are few and far between, so anyone who doesn't like facing consistent bomber fairways are not going to have a fun time on this course.

Location of this course isn't as accessible as many others in the area, as it's not as close to highways or main roads. Not a big con, but if you're looking for an easy course to get to while passing through or visiting the area, most other courses around St. Louis will check this box better than Sioux.

Grass Length - While this hasn't been an issue for me yet on this course, it seems like this is another park in the county that can go a while before getting mowed.

Other Thoughts:

Upon first reviewing this course in 2001, I declared it St. Louis's best with 5 stars; Younger Tyler might have been a little extreme with that rating. About 85 courses played later, and I would now personally consider this course a 3.5 to a 4, swinging closer to a 4. While it may have had an argument for St. Louis's best course a decade ago, I would say that newer courses in the area, as well as enhancements to others, have taken Sioux Passage out of that conversation for me personally.

That isn't to say Sioux Passage isn't a fun or good course. Located a little more off the beaten path, I feel like this course doesn't get as much love as some others in the area. That's a shame too, as it has a high fun factor if you have a decent arm. This is one of the older courses in the area, being one of the 90's installations along with Endicott, JB, and Quail Ridge. While other courses may come up more often when asked about the top courses in the area, Sioux Passage makes for a nice sleeper pic that shouldn't be immediately overlooked.

Come check out Sioux Passage if you have a power arm for drives and like to use it or enjoy some elevation challenges. If you want some variety, make time to also check out Biscoe Woods, the second 18 in the park that is shorter and more technical with more trees in play. If you are still working on drive accuracy or distance, most of the other courses in North St. Louis or Alton will make for good options to practice at as you work up to Sioux Passage. And for your own sake, if you go to Sioux Passage - Original 18 in the Summer: hydrate. And then hydrate some more. And maybe opt for an early morning round.
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chains314
Experience: 15.3 years 18 played 4 reviews
4.50 star(s)

Watch Them Soar 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jan 4, 2011 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

The terrain and elevation changes of the park make for plenty of different types of holes. You will use all techniques in your arsenal on this one. Get your work out in for the day while playing trekking up and down hills. Very low probability of losing discs as most holes are on the edge of the woods instead of in them. Very well maintained. Not a downed branch, unmowed field or even dirty tee pad in sight.

Cons:

Signage (as with all St. Louis courses) is poor. You will rarely find a trash can by the tees, but litter doesn't seem to be a problem. Having the back nine down the road is irritating but only a 1 minute drive.

Other Thoughts:

I don't get out to play this course near enough but I really hope you find time to do it at least once.
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peabody
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 20.9 years 55 played 34 reviews
4.00 star(s)

A St. Louis must play course 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Nov 13, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

Level and long concrete tees! DGA Mach's in very good/new condition. Bathrooms and ample parking. Well manicured fairways. Good variety of shots a good use of the hills that adorn this beautiful well kept park. Good people ( thanks Mike and Phil).

Cons:

Too much walking back up the hill for the next shot, esp. on the front nine. Hole #9 you have to walk down a steep hill just to throw back up the steep hill. Tee signs just gave the position of the pin and distances.
You have to drive to the back nine.
The out of bounds tall grass that adorns the back nine was mowed down as of this review so I never got to see it or utilize it's fairway shaping hazards.
No cards and the kiosk had no maps.

Other Thoughts:

Hole 1 is a great starting hole. It sets the tone for the first few holes. Wind can play a role on this course so watch out for the road.
Hole 7 is the best hole on the course as far as I am concerned. Very tough tight first shot or you might try a crazy hyzer way out to the right. The chances of hitting wood here are 60% or better.
The back nine starts out with a long uphill dogleg left that will really test the big arms. If you throw 275 like me the disc will only end up about 180 and halfway up the hill.
The tee on #12 is the final resting place on the back nine. I guess during the hot summer that tee gets backed up with golfers cooling off there. Of course #13 downhill is the funnest hole here, long downhill that will make us all look like Nate Doss.
18 is a great finishing hole and the winding road to the right makes for some Preparation -H- moments.
While in St. Louis stop by here and then go down the road a bit and check out White Birch , the oldest course in Mo.
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Semlly
Experience: 13.8 years 8 played 2 reviews
4.50 star(s)

Long and Open 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Sep 25, 2010 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Great, long course that helps work on drives. It's very good to build up endurance for big tournaments. Grass is cut 95% of the time. Fun course.

Cons:

Some holes are easy to lose a disc if you mess up. Hole indicator at tee pad isn't always right. Back nine is a little bit of a walk from the front nine.

Other Thoughts:

Lengthy, but the top course in St. Louis area for me. Definitely a prime spot for a tournament and good fun.
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gkeberhart
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 15.5 years 36 played 31 reviews
3.50 star(s)

Beautiful Course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Sep 17, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

There are a lot of great things about this course; distance, hills, scenery, multiple pins and excellent maintinence. Almost every hole had 3+ pin placements that were playable for any skill level. Tee pads were solid and generally level (not level to the ground but level where a ball wouldn't roll.) Baskets were in good condition and the grass was even mowed. Trash was at a minimal and there were plenty of restooms. There was a park set on the front and a large set of portable restrooms in the parking lot for the back 9 (I assume this is only during cross country season).

Cons:

Going from the front nine to the back nine was a short car ride or long walk. When I played it we couldn't locate basket 17 but it was also getting dark. There were a few instances where you were throwing extremely close to a parking lot which could cause you to hit a car. The signage became a little frustrating as you never really knew where the basket was, just how far you needed to throw it (this was common at the STL parks I played). In a lot of cases it just fels really open, high grass was used in some areas to narrow a fairway though.

Other Thoughts:

#9 had an amazing tee that really made the hole tough and exciting. The back nine incorporated a lot more in terms of elevation change. If you are on the last few holes and you end up in the wild grass keep a good eye on it, I found it very easy to lose two discs in there. Be prepared to walk quite a bit and tackle a few hills. Distances are accurate but because of some of the extreme elevation changes be prepared to adjust to playable distance. despite being a long course on paper, a lot of the downhill holes made it play much shorter.
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notapro
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Premium Member
Experience: 20.6 years 568 played 281 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Nearly Championship 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Sep 5, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

- Course is spread out extremely well in a large park, to the point where driving to the back nine is a good idea. A little hassle for a great return, the course is enormous. Definitely a long course regardless of the pin positions, and the pro pars carry their weight.
- Excellent use of the hilly terrain to provide extreme elevation changes on many holes. The gargantuan downhill shot on #13 is truly a sight to behold. It is complemented by many steep uphill shots that play well over the stated distance. Holes with average slopes (for this course at least) are still very much affected, to the point where the flatter holes become new and exciting.
- Diverse mix of dense forest, small tree groves, and large matures trees where appropriate. Holes with clear fairways have ample forested hazards, usually on both sides, that are very dense and very punishing. Medium rough is also present on holes, which plays O.B. in some situations. Hole #18 even has a drop zone, which basically amounts to a mando fairway. Many other holes use the large and low trees to force very accurate shots off the tee and throughout long fairways.
- Great tee pads and baskets.

Cons:

- Overall, the course is pretty open. There aren't many well defined routes to the basket, mostly just avoiding trees while staying in the wide fairways. Some holes feel more like a driving range with obstacles, as opposed to having critical landing spots for the next shot. That is nitpicking, of course.
- Tee signs are very basic - a list of the different positions and distances, with a bolt to signify the current placement. Bolts were sometimes in the wrong hole, which could be frustrating the first time through. Course can be tricky to navigate the first time, make sure to get a scorecard or study the map.
- Some holes play by the entrance road and the parking lot, but they can be avoided for the most part.

Other Thoughts:

- This course is a lesson in elevation, as almost every hole has a long slope, hill, or valley to contend with. Most of the shorter holes make great use of hazards or elevation to provide extra challenge, and there is a great mix of open and hazardous bomber holes as well. The only thing that really keeps this course from being championship level is the lack of multi-shot holes with mandatory pathways/obvious landing zones, and tight fairways to force very specific lines.
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discoholic
Experience: 15.7 years 123 played 8 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Go the distance 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 27, 2010 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

This park feels like it was designed to contain a disk golf course. Sioux is a long and mostly open course, in a beautiful and well manicured landscape. The scattered trees will play defense, but elevation is the real challenge here. You need distance, and accuracy to negotiate this course. Despite the challenge this is a very fair course.

The front nine plays over rolling hills and through well placed trees. #2 and #6 play across a deep valley and favor distance. #5 and #8 have the baskets tucked into the woods, and make you think before you throw. #7 and #9 are unique for this course. #7 is through a stand a tight trees. #9's tee shot is a 100' hallway up a hill to reach the fairway.

You have to drive to the back nine, it's a short drive / long walk.

The back nine starts out up hill, then down hill, and then up hill again. #13 makes all that hill climbing worth while. It's 100' down and 600' of driving fun. You will want to empty your bag. #15 is payback, it plays back up the 100'. The 666' distance says it all. There are wild grass areas that are out of bounds and come into play on at least 4 holes. #18 can be a beast when it's at 800'.

This is a championship course all the way. Every hole offers a fun challenge. There are concrete pads with 3-4 pin placements. Good bathrooms and drinking fountain across the street from the first tee. Port a Potty at 10th tee. Playground for the kids.

Cons:

This course is hard to navigate. The signs need maps, the distance to the pin is not good enough on this course. Even after 20+ rounds I would still like a map at the tee. I would really like to give this course a 4 1/2 but it needs better signs.

If it's your first time and you don't have a map....
On the park road stay left, first tee at second parking on left, across from bathroom / playground. You'll see baskets on your left.
#8 to #9 follow one of the paths in the woods down hill.
#9 to #10 drive farther down the road you came in on to the next parking.
#10 to #11 follow the gravel road to the right, or take a path through the wild grass area. Respect the course, take the road.
#11 to #12 turn around and look for the orange flags in the woods. The tee is in those woods.

The mosquitoes can be intense. Don't throw into the long grass, it's long.

Other Thoughts:

The disk golf gods must mow the grass. Its always short, but I've never seen anyone cutting it.

You can see the Missouri river if you want. Stay right on your way out after the back nine.
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joesiya
Experience: 23 played 4 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Great Course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Feb 27, 2010 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Beautiful, long course with a variety of shots. Long fairways for the big armed player. Variety of pin positions that are frequently alternated. Low volume course. Worth the drive, on of the bests in the St. Louis area.

Cons:

Hole #9 is treacherous when wet and some of the tees/holes on the back nine are hard to find for the first timer with no map.
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japetus
Experience: 6 played 6 reviews
4.50 star(s)

One of the best 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Dec 15, 2009 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

What can I say that already hasn't been said....One of the greatest DG courses around for a long relaxing day. Playing even the front 9 is a rewarding experience in itself. Just great shots. You can be rewarded with power and you can be greatly rewarded with accuracy. Great pads, place is always immaculately maintained. If you are of age, a few beers is always a good thing as long as you keep it under wraps. Lots of friendly folks.

Cons:

I really can't say what cons there are, if any. I don't know if there can be the PERFECT course.

Other Thoughts:

if you are in the NoCo STL area and you have the time, at least play the front 9.
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Jorge
Experience: 16.6 years 65 played 12 reviews
4.50 star(s)

The Top Course in St. Louis 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jun 17, 2008 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

This is the best course in St. Louis. I have a short arm, but the beauty of the course and it's layout make you want to come back again and again.

This course reminded me of a real golf course the first time I played it. Many long holes, but also par 4's and one par 5.

Concrete tee pads and multiple pin placements.

This course will make you a better player.

Many out-of-bounds makes for great risk/reward holes.

Cons:

You have to drive from the front 9 to the back 9.

The walk from hole 15 to 16 is long and straight uphill.

Other Thoughts:

The first time I played this course, standing ontop of the tee pad of hole 13, about 100' above the basket that sits 600' away, watching my drive sail for tens of seconds and then seeing an 8 point buck chasing 2 doe's across the fairway. One of the most beautiful sights ever.

If you are in St. Louis, you have to play this course. Comparable to Waterworks in KC.
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4 5
bogeybogey
Experience: 14.8 years 25 played 8 reviews
4.00 star(s)

A Must Play 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Sep 2, 2009 Played the course:once

Pros:

I read reviews online here before going out yesterday and I was even more surprised when I got there, great use of the landscape given, plenty of reachable holes, like 2,3,6,11,14 yet also has a good mix of more difficult hyzers at 5, 8 specially. 4 and 9, especially 9 is so unusual I had so much fun..great course.not too difficult if you can throw a basic hyzer and annie. Get ready for sweating the hills can be more demanding on your legs than expected.

Cons:

It was my first time playing, i knew i had to drive over to te other side, dosent mean that I liked it. Also finding pins on 5 8 etc...was cumbersome.

Other Thoughts:

A must play for St. Louis. Donttake Howdershell/Shakleford all the way up...way too slow
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odysseus81
Silver level trusted reviewer
Experience: 26.8 years 99 played 35 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Let it Fly 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 29, 2009 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

This is a great course to reach back and let it fly. One of the most fun "open" courses I hve played. There are plenty of well placed tree clusters and tons of changes in elevation. These along with quite a bit of rough on the back nine make for a very challenging course. The park is beautiful and well maintained, with fairly minimal foot traffic. Hole #9 is absolutely ridiculous...whoever put it together.

Cons:

I have very few...I really love this course. The signage could be a lot better. Especially on the back nine, there are some spots that are very easy to get turned around trying to find the next tee. Wear long pants, because wandering around in the tall grass looking for a disk is very likely.

Other Thoughts:

One of my two favorite St. Louis courses...if you are coming to the area make sure you check it out...you won't be disappointed.
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Adgeri
Experience: 15.7 years 6 played 6 reviews
4.00 star(s)

very challenging course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jul 28, 2009 Played the course:once

Pros:

The play was very challenging. There is a lot of open space to throw on the front nine. The course is has pretty fair pars but is still a demanding course. The holes are lengthy without being obnoxious. There are a lot of both downhill and uphill shots.

Cons:

After the first bunch of holes, there is no clear indicator of the next box in some areas. A couple of holes had pins that were very difficult to spot as well. I think it's crazy that you're expected to drive from hole 9 to hole 10.
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mashnut
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 22 years 831 played 767 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Beautiful course! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Sep 7, 2010 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Playing this course felt very much like playing disc golf on a ball golf course, with beautifully manicured and well-defined grassy fairways, and lots of great length. The park is gorgeous, and seemed pretty empty when I played, which I found surprising. The course plays up and down lots of hills, and through some beautiful mature trees.

The design of this course utilizes the park very well. There are all kinds of shots required here, from loooong open bombs to more technical tighter shots. There was a nice mix of wide open holes with some that had scattered trees to avoid, and even a few more wooded holes. Many holes play up or down large hills, and the elevation available was used perfectly. Though the course is pretty open, it still forces a decent mix of left and right turning shots to avoid the trees, and some low ceilings come into play to make you hit some tighter lines.

The tees were all nice large concrete pads, and all were in good shape. The tee signs were easy to see from a distance to find the next tee, and clearly indicated which pin position the basket was currently in. It's clear a lot of work goes into keeping this course in good shape, and this made it a very enjoyable disc golf experience.

Cons:

I would have liked to see maps on many of the tee signs. There are a lot of holes where the pin is not obvious from the tee, and just the distance to the pin was not enough. A few holes had the pin position marked incorrectly the last time I played, though that wasn't an issue the first time through. It was a little frustrating on some blind holes where you think you know where you're throwing but the pin is in a totally different place.

It would have also been nice to have a course map available, either on scorecards or just at the beginning of the course. This would have helped with navigation in a few spots where multiple tees are visible, and made the split between the front and back nines much easier to figure out.

Other Thoughts:

Be ready to throw lots of long drives on this course, there are a ton of holes with great length where you can really rip it. This course is beautiful and challenging, and makes for a great day of disc golfing. Beginners might find the course length daunting, though there are shorter courses around the area. More experienced players will be challenged, especially to place shots on the longer holes to set up the next throw, I love this kind of challenge on multi-shot holes.

After you play the front 9, follow the road you came into the park on, and look for a gravel parking lot, that's where the back 9 starts and ends.
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hognosesucker
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 24.8 years 443 played 85 reviews
4.00 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Mar 15, 2009 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

Beautiful, well groomed county park with many facilities, ie running water, bathrooms, shelter with electric, several parking lots.

Great concrete tees, waste baskets on almost every hole. Multiple pin placements (3-4) per hole.

Front nine long and open, with four holes that play partially through the woods, for example 2 of the four the pins are usually tucked into the woods, one plays out from the woods into the open. Good use of elevation. Number 2 and 6 play over a huge ravine, number 4 plays up a long gradual uphill.

Back nine also long and open, but all the prairie grass is ob, prairie grass comes into play on 10 and 11(to a lesser extent), 12, 16, 17, and 18. Then the road is in play on 13 (a fun, huge, down hill shot with road on the left, tough to stay in-bounds, but be ready to throw extra discs) 15 and 18 also have road ob to a lesser extent.

Cons:

Not a lot of cons here, just ones that get under my skin a bit

for example: you have to drive from the front nine to the back nine, you can walk but it's probably a quarter mile down a big hill to the parking lot for the back. Not a huge variety of holes, I would have liked to see some tight wooded holes as there are a lot of bottom areas and wooded areas.

The tee signs are cool, they have the different distances for each placement and then put by the current placement, however there is no hole map on the tee signs so I can imagine someone unfamiliar with the course saying 'okay it's 450 ft but in which direction?'

It may also be hard to find your way between holes, I was lucky to play for the first time with some people that had played there before, so it was fairly straight forward.

Other Thoughts:

This is a must-play course. It's fairly underused, as I understand, but the county still does a great job taking care of the course grounds, and no waiting. Go play sioux passage.
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