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TDD's on the rise elsewhere???

it tends to be a happy-person's sport, and in my experience the good folks outnumber the bad at all ages and skills.

While in the context of old school I agree with you but the new school sure seems assclownish.
That of course... is not exclusive. I have had the honor of meeting some excellent dg noobs.

I guess the assclowns just stand out in stark contrast.
Its not the experienced adopt-a-hole locals cracking bottles on the teepads.

Bingo.
 
The timing of this thread seems very, um, timely. Recently, I have run into this sortof behavior on multiple occasions, at my home course, Elver Park. Last weekend we teed off on the last hole, a huge downhill drive, and while walking to get my cousin's disc, noticed some guy from the group ahead just standing on the fairway. His group was already done throwing, so this struck me as strange, so i made a beeline for this guy. From the way he was talking before he tee'd off, he seemed like kindof a d-bag.

I asked him if he'd seen my cousin's white disc, and he looks aroudn for a second, then shuffles through the pile of 4 discs in his hand, and asks what kind. I tell him, and he drops it on the ground and walks away.

Also that round, we played with these three HS kids who overall were pretty cool. However, three times, I'd walk up to throw my second shot to find one of them walking out of the brush with my disc in his hand, thinking they'd found a new disc. This got old really fast, but I was polite about it (I was the one who kept shanking it into the brush).

Here's the problem with that situation, even if the disc they had found wasnt mine, I've got phone #s on all those discs, and not once did they flip over the disc and look for a # like they might call it.

That bothered me almost as much as having to take a drop from the approximate location of my drive, since htey would just toss the disc back down next to them and say, oh I found it about there.

Very trying. I've played with two or three disc wonders that were great players and some that outshot me. Most of them are cool. But I think the point is this, how many d-bags have you met on the course that carry innova bags with a dozen discs in them? Its not the experienced adopt-a-hole locals cracking bottles on the teepads.

Dude you are way nicer or far more patient than me.
 
Here in north central Wisconsin, I have seen more people playing - and more people with just two discs, but have not had too many of the TTD experience. Don't get me wrong, we have plenty of the "D" part of the acronym up here. Thankfully, they just don't generally play disc golf. Probably too busy painting their trucks camouflage.
 
I cannot begin to list some of the stupid chit I have witnessed in the last few years.

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My theory: entitlement generation.

they have been handed everything on a silver platter and they have no respect for the decades of dedication it took to HAVE dg courses in the FIRST place.

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Spoiled yuppie brats do not make for a good citizen, imho.

Perhaps it is just me that has this perspective... but there are a fair amount of noob dipsticks coming into the world of DG.

NOT ALL OF COURSE, there are some wonderful folks as well. Many of you seem to be here.

I think you've got it there "entitlement generation"

It's not just in the world of disc golf either. My mother is a teacher and when she busts a kid for not obeying the dress code, they threaten to sue her.
I work in theatre, and recently we had 6 ladies sit 2 rows behind the director of the show and talk through the whole thing. When she said something to them at the end they told her they could talk as much as they wanted because they're donators. And these were 50 year old women, not even teens.

Etiquette is something that is getting harder and harder to come by.
 
You are correct about which generation they may or may not come from. I have seen similar stuff to your examples with rich folks.

I did not mean to paint with a wide brush in that regard. A dumbarse can be old or
young, no doubt... rich or poor.

Perhaps I need a new term other than generation... or just stick to spoiled yuppie brat.

Yea, that outta do it.

:^p

Some folks have never been hungry. They do not know what it means.
 
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In my experience I have as much trouble with middle aged customers at my club acting entitled as people my age and younger if not more. They have a lot of trouble taking directions from somebody half their age apparently. But when the person talking to you works where you are at and their shirt says security you better return the respect given or be ready to leave. Now the current crop of high school kids? yeah I run into a lot that act like self-entitled dbags. I have to blame their parents for that, probably a lot of the same adults I have trouble with at work.

Back on the issue of 2 and 3 discers. All of my friends that I play with only use 3 or 4 discs. But they only use that many cause when I got interested in the vase arsenal of discs available and how they are different they listened to me, other wise they probably will all still have 1. They don't feel like spending much if any money on it so they all got a driver, mid, and putter. When we all started together we were just out of high school and more so looking for a place to go to be away from authority figures and hang out. We all played other sports though and at least grasped good sportsmanship, so I doubt any regulars got too frustrated with us. As that first year went on I was the only one that wanted to go every day and wanted to get better. I had to defend buying more than one disc, and the group soon shrank from like 7 to 3 or 4. Often now just 2 of us will be able find the same time to play at any given time. But we play fast, stay quite, help others look for discs, and let faster players play through as soon as they catch up to us. I'm not sure when it happened, but at some point the mindset goes from 'all-about me/us' to 'everyone else deserves consideration'.
 
I should also say in defense of some random high school kids I met this last week ... there are some good kids out there. They let me play through as soon as I caught up to them and politely asked what discs I had in my bag. Seemed genuinely curious and with it being a small course I don't recall even once being distracted by one of them yelling or doing anything stupid.
 
If someone throws while you are on the fairway, pick up their disc and throw it as far as you can. That's the best way to teach an idiot not to throw when people are still playing the hole.

I thought Jesus was merciful and God was the vengeful one.
 
I said throw it far away, not at them. This not only imroves awareness, but overall health. I work in mysterious ways.

Dang you Jesus! I just laughed diet coke through my nose when I read that post.
 
Interesting thread. I mentioned this before. I really think our game is best introduced on the grass roots level That is someone is introduced to the game by someone who plays it. This spreads the enthusiasm and kind of keeps the good will of the game intact. I cringe when people want our game to be exposed via TV, a movie, or some other type of campaign. I was introduced to the game by what I like to call caretakers of the sport. I keep that type of hospitality and goodwill in all my interactions with people I meet on the course. I think people love our game because of the culture of positive vibes around it. This is why people love the scene and the sport itself is part of what has gotten so many hooked. The sport has grown solidly on the underground for years and I hope it never becomes mainstream and spoiled. I would hate to see the day disc golf is corporate and loses it's soul. God I sound like a bitter deadhead when the dead got a top 10 hit in 1986. LOL!
 
I hope it never becomes mainstream and spoiled.

Sorry, but a % of the new guard of disc golf is exactly that...
spoiled yuppies who do not really bring much to the table. Period.

Texicans have a saying... "all hat no cattle"

Yea that outta do it. How about wannab pro weekend warrior donators who start whining after two rounds. That fits like a glove too.

We are fortunate as disc golfers. We owe bigtime... yet a certian % of new players are
superficial and simply do not get it. They are not like the old school dg'ers. Not even close.

I am merely referring to what I have witnessed over the years and in the last few years.
The new school doesn't hold a candle to the old school volunteer kinda folks that got
all this started. THERE ARE OF COURSE EXCEPTIONS.

Many of those useless noob types tend to be anonymous on the web, incidentally.

Shame on some folks, imho. They have not earned a phucking thing. Typical yuppie.
How some folks sleep is beyond me.
 
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I only carry around two discs. :( Mostly cause' I don't want to get a bag and I'd rather spend my money on gas and other things then more discs. I just carry around a Driver and a Midrange. Sometimes, depending on the course I'll bring my leopard so I just carry around 3.
 
I've noticed some tdd's lately as well, we had some throwing into us when we were on fairway's about a month ago. We let them play through and then threw on them for a couple of holes, although it felt good at the time we felt pretty petty afterward. I know some people are new and unaware of the rules or etiquette but I think it's common sense not to throw when you may hit someone. I've also been behind groups of usually fairly experienced players who throw multiple discs per hole on busy courses and never offer to let others play through. I think in either case it comes down to respect and the golden rule.
 

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