Pet Peeve: foot fault run ups

[optidiscic]

Players who do run ups in fairways and plant their foot no where close to their lie.....I can't stand it.
2-3 feet left or right of the mini is common amaongst many I play with but calling it seems like such a d1ck move
Am I missing something about the rules ...I thought it was 11 inches from the mini?

 

[bradharris]

You have the rule right. The plant foot must be 30 cm (~11 inches) in a straight line behind the lie. If you call them on it, you are making the correct call.

 

[ceteebird999]

I have seen this, I am guilty of this at times as well, but the way I think about it is, are they getting any kind of huge advantage by this? Probably not. Is anyone beating me because of this one thing? Nope

 

[juju]

Yup, up to 11 inches behind the mini.

Call it on them. Definitely not a dick move if they are breaking the rules. If they are off a small bit I won't call it, but 2-3 feet and they will definitely be rethrowing or taking a stroke (if it is their second offense).

 

[optidiscic]

I have seen this, I am guilty of this at times as well, but the way I think about it is, are they getting any kind of huge advantage by this? Probably not. Is anyone beating me because of this one thing? Nope

yes they are getting a huge advantage......at least in the terrain and courses I play
I am a stand and deliver player so I find it very infuriating....especially since I stopped trying to do run ups as I felt I faulted or thought about faulting too much to be effective

 

[jasonc]

I would call it without hesitation if someone gained an advantage on an angle/line to the bucket.

On open courses/holes where there is seemingly no good reason or advantage to taking that extra space, I would still call it if someone made it a habit during the round. However, in this situation I would normally mention it casually at first and start out by saying, "Hey I'm not making this an official warning, but noticed you were at least 3' away from your mini on that last shot...."

 

[codyroberts18]

In a particular instance I was involved in, an advantage was seen by 3 inches to the left of the mini. My partner and I in a doubles tournament had a terrible lie and on the follow through, there was a huge tree that I hit with my hand. My partner stepped over a couple inches, missed the tree, and parked the upshot simply because he wasn't worried about the tree.

If it is casual play, it is kind of petty to call but in a tournament I would do it in a heartbeat. Those couple inches, or feet as you said, gives said players a mental and shotmaking advantage in my opinion.

 

[GripEnemy]

On 800'+ holes, where two max D shots are usually required, I don't care. If it isn't the instance I just referred to, I get salty.

 

[Norcal]

Players who do run ups in fairways and plant their foot no where close to their lie.....I can't stand it.
2-3 feet left or right of the mini is common amaongst many I play with but calling it seems like such a d1ck move
Am I missing something about the rules ...I thought it was 11 inches from the mini?

It happens all the time but it's rarely called which is unfortunate because just a few inches can be a huge advantage. There's an easy fix: make stand and deliver mandatory outside of the tee box.

 

[optidiscic]

It happens all the time but it's rarely called which is unfortunate because just a few inches can be a huge advantage. There's an easy fix: make stand and deliver mandatory outside of the tee box.

Amen :clap:

 

[pspunch]

It happens all the time but it's rarely called which is unfortunate because just a few inches can be a huge advantage. There's an easy fix: make stand and deliver mandatory outside of the tee box.

rediculous.

 

[optidiscic]

rediculous.

It's been discussed but the weenie arms always prevail

 

[New013]

i mean if you're in the woods and trying to get a better line it matters, but if you're out in the open and trying to rip a 400' fairway shot just let it be unless they player is way off left or right. we're not ballet dancers.

 

[elevated plastic]

i mean if you're in the woods and trying to get a better line it matters, but if you're out in the open and trying to rip a 400' fairway shot just let it be unless they player is way off left or right. we're not ballet dancers.

I totally agree with this.

 

[BradC]

i mean if you're in the woods and trying to get a better line it matters, but if you're out in the open and trying to rip a 400' fairway shot just let it be unless they player is way off left or right. we're not ballet dancers.

Then control your run up. If you can't plant where you should, you are out of control and breaking the rules.

Start calling it Opti.

 

[optidiscic]

i mean if you're in the woods and trying to get a better line it matters, but if you're out in the open and trying to rip a 400' fairway shot just let it be unless they player is way off left or right. we're not ballet dancers.

what about a 400 foot fairway shot in the woods....like in PA and NC

roots? rocks? bumps? It seems to me good players can do a run up and plant within 6 inches of the marker.......many lesser players IMO are gaining an advantage by essentially throwing from generally the same zip code and not worrying about where they plant

there is also the matter of roots, rocks, footing, bumps, mounds, holes, etc

not to mention a tree in front of the direct lie

 

[AWallen90]

I see this all the time on "jump putts" players will place their non plant foot on the ground past the disc before releasing the disc. Most of the time it seems they are going to miss the putt anyway so I just let it slide. According to the PDGA it must be called within 3 seconds and confirmed by another player. Remember that is it is the player's first stance violation they get a retry on the throw, so if you are out to win let a bad shot slide, maybe call it on a made putt.

I have never called a stance violation, seems like a richard move. I just keep my cool and beat them where it hurts.

http://www.pdga.com/rules/80304-stance-subsequent-to-teeing-off

 

[juju]

Usually the seasoned players have a good idea of their run-up and are able to gauge where their plant foot lands better than newer players. I suggest some field practice using a mini to many a new player I see who continue to foot fault.

Also, I don't buy the "it doesn't matter on an open hole" concept. There is an advantage of not even attempting to hit your plant foot mark. You're breaking a rule and should be reprimanded.

 

[optidiscic]

Usually the seasoned players have a good idea of their run-up and are able to gauge where their plant foot lands better than newer players. I suggest some field practice using a mini to many a new player I see who continue to foot fault.

Also, I don't buy the "it doesn't matter on an open hole" concept. There is an advantage of not even attempting to hit your plant foot mark. You're breaking a rule and should be reprimanded.

exactly...you are essentially throwing a second tee shot from the fairway with little regard for where you plant your foot

 

[GripEnemy]

what about a 400 foot fairway shot in the woods....like in PA and NC

roots? rocks? bumps? It seems to me good players can do a run up and plant within 6 inches of the marker.......many lesser players IMO are gaining an advantage by essentially throwing from generally the same zip code and not worrying about where they plant

there is also the matter of roots, rocks, footing, bumps, mounds, holes, etc

not to mention a tree in front of the direct lie

BOOM!

I love playing all of these tight/long woods courses around us