AHHHH LEAGUE PLAYERS!

[JeremyKShort]

I just realized something, the OP hasn't chimed in since starting the thread lol.

That's the best thing to do with a thread. Throw gas on the fire, step back and watch.

 

[reposado]

I just realized something, the OP hasn't chimed in since starting the thread lol.

from the title, tone and low post count, i assumed from the beginning it was alt and a parody thread

 

[Clonan]

haha the weekly obligatory "Leageue players are jerks" thread.

 

[Jukeshoe]

I recently worked with a bunch of people from WI and this is true. I wonder what's in the water up there?

Being nice is, like, a cultural thing n shizzz in Wisconsin... :\ :|

 

[Stardoggy]

Trust me, people in Wisconsin are nicer than the norm.

I traveled around quite a bit when I was in the Marines, and outside of Japanese nationals, I did find that Wisconsin people are pretty much the nicest people I know, for the most part.

With that said, I'm not sure what happened to me.

 

[bthoma1]

Darts and pool are played IN A BAR. IT'S LEGAL TO DRINK IN BARS. As I said, it's illegal to to drink in public parks here. Every one has a sign that mentions this fact, as does every disc golf course I've played on public land in the Columbus area. And yet I see plenty of people drinking on the course. Pot is illegal almost everywhere, and yet I smell it all over the course. Beer in a bar, legal. Beer in a park, not. Try to have a valid point next time.

Oh, and yes I do believe in stereotypes. I believe that the sun will come up in the east, and that it will set in the west. I believe in gravity, centrifugal force, electricity, and magnetism as well. Why do I believe in these things? Because they all exist. Whether we like them or not, they are present. I don't believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, or that I'll ever get laid by the Playmate of the Month any more than I believe your claim you don't act on stereotypes at least occasionally. You may TRY not to, and I do as well. But your actions are occasionally influenced by stereotypes whether you want it to be or not, so climb down off your high horse and quit acting like your crap doesn't stink.

But those aren't stereotypes :doh:

 

[The Yodeler]

It's league night!!! That means fairly packed course and playing through would be pointless. Come another time or join up. I think a hard look in the mirror is in order before calling those dedicated to keeping the course in good shape douches.

More than likely these are the folks meeting early on Sunday or Saturday morning trimming trees, sinking in new pin placements, and taking care of the poison ivy and yellow jacket nests for you.

Sorry... but I think back to all my years of playing ball golf leagues and I don't recall anyone playing that night that wasn't in the league. Don't see why disc golf should be any different.

This particular course is not kept in good shape. Almost no one has the common courtesy to pick up after themselves, so I end up having to pick up trash and bottles.
Also, disc golf is for the public unless there is a professional event. But a league? They don't deserve to claim the course to themselves simply because they buy in. None of the money goes back to the course or the county in charge of said course. In my mind, they are just using it like everyone else and do not deserve special treatment.

 

[The Yodeler]

Way to group all of league players into one category...I guess am one of the "league players" in the category of people you just identified. But, I'll still be the guy behind you and your buddies during a casual round picking up your beer cans and watching you throw trash all over the course. THanks for stumbling all over the course like drunken morons and making everybody blame "league players" for making the sport look bad. And no, I am not going to let your play through. What if I have been waiting ten minutes at every tee to throw my shot? I should let you play through when the hole is clear? Why? To watch you throw a horrible forehand right into a tree?... SO I figured since you wanted to lump all "league players" into one category, I would lump all of you "non-league" players into one. Suck it up or play a different course...If I play on a course with a league going on that I not playing in that night, I'll either A. Suck it up and play an extremely slow round or B. Play somewhere else. Tired of seeing these thread with people whining about "league" players.

See, that's where you're mistaken. I don't drink or smoke, and I don't bring garbage to the course. On the off chance that I do, it goes into a garbage can. Also, just because I don't participate in a league does not mean I am terrible. I just prefer to play a normal paced round instead of the 3 hour 18-hole snooze fest.
I came to this forum to voice a general concern that the majority of people in leagues in my area are rude/inconsiderate. Sorry if that offended you, but I was not trying to lump all league players into one group.

 

[scarpfish]

I just love how people use the internet to self proclaim that their highfalutin opinions about most anything are somehow facts or edicts. I guess if not for that, we wouldn't be here.

There are 5,337 courses in the directory. I wonder how many of them were inspired, designed and installed by someone who wasn't involved with some semblance of organized competitive play.

 

[Magilacutys]

I know op is trollin, but ill bite!

I don't understand why people want to play through when a course is packed. If I'm waiting every hole anyways then it doesn't matter if your group is smaller. Letting someone play through it those instances doesn't do anything but slow everyone behind the group that'll played through down which then makes the wait times even longer then they already were.

 

[chain_ape7]

Bottom line on this thread is.......don't be a D*CK. If you are a casual player, respect the league, dubs, and tourney players and the course itself. Be grateful you have a place to play and a local club that runs leagues, tourneys etc. to help maintain the course you play on.
Conversely, regular club players need to teach rec/casual players the etiquette and rules of disc golf. We need to be open, approachable, and to TEACH. One good interaction can turn a casual player into a new club member, tourney player etc. More funds into the club, course, tourney payouts etc.
I have quite a few friends that we started playing with that won't join the local club or play dubs or tourneys because they have has sh*tty experiences with veteran players. We gotta grow the sport somehow. Don't be a Richard -----sorry, no offense to all the good guys named Rick out there!

 

[Alcuin]

Also, disc golf is for the public unless there is a professional event. But a league? They don't deserve to claim the course to themselves simply because they buy in. [...] In my mind, they are just using it like everyone else and do not deserve special treatment.

It cuts both ways though. Since it's public, and a casual league rather than a sanctioned tournament, league players who fill up a course playing dubs have just as much a right to do that as you have to play there. And if the course is packed, playing through might not be a good option. Would you really want to play through if you have to do so on every hole?

I've only been playing for a few years, so I remember clearly what it was like not knowing any of the players in the area and showing up to the course on a league day not knowing what was going on. I was a bit put off by it too, because it is a pain. But in the end, you have to suck it up and remember next time not to play that course unless you want to join in on league play. Again, it cuts both ways; everybody is responsible for etiquette on the course.

I've been playing league rounds for about a year and a half, and we always let people play through. Always. But the fact is, that I tend to have a better sense of the flow of the course than a non-league player, mainly because I know who else is out there and I know how fast a given hole will play on my local courses because I play them so often. So I'm sure there are times when I wait to let somebody play through for a few holes and that person doesn't know why and gets annoyed by that, but that's just the way it is. Just because you're alone, doesn't mean you get to dictate the pace of play for everyone else, just as big groups shouldn't dictate that pace either. There's a balance to strike.

 

[The Yodeler]

from the title, tone and low post count, i assumed from the beginning it was alt and a parody thread

It's actually quite real, good sir. I'm newer to DGCR, so that's why the post count is low. And my limited number of replies is due to the fact I work 2 jobs and don't have a lot of spare time.

 

[disc qualified]

Casuals get mad at league players because casuals feel the league acts like they own the course. Meanwhile, league players get frustrated because casuals act like whiny brats who feel that they can do whatever they want at a public course. It's a vicious cycle.

 

[The Yodeler]

My original intention is not to slander, it's just to bring to light what I'd like to see. Casual league players speeding up their play or allowing playthrough for sole players and perhaps being a little more welcoming to newer players. I've gone so far as to play rounds with new players and give them tips, or even a disc when I can see it will help their game. Not saying everyone has to do that, but it would definitely help.

 

[disc qualified]

I've gone so far as to play rounds with new players and give them tips, or even a disc when I can see it will help their game. Not saying everyone has to do that, but it would definitely help.

I'm proud of you

 

[Future_Primitive]

This thread needs more Kerry Washington GIF's and less anti-social crybabies. Might be a good idea to use less stereotypes as well, inconsiderate morons come in all shapes and sizes, some play leagues and others prefer a more casual experience. Life goes on.

 

[Alcuin]

My original intention is not to slander, it's just to bring to light what I'd like to see. Casual league players speeding up their play or allowing playthrough for sole players and perhaps being a little more welcoming to newer players. I've gone so far as to play rounds with new players and give them tips, or even a disc when I can see it will help their game. Not saying everyone has to do that, but it would definitely help.

The thing is, league play isn't the time to help a new player out by playing with them or giving them tips/discs. You go to leagues to play with your dg friends and have a little casual competition for some pocket change.

If you want to play, just show up for the league round and play. It's tough meeting new people, and it's awkward for everyone, but my favorite people to play with I met during league play. Oh and the first time I tried to join their group, they told me no because they were full up. That was a bummer, but I didn't take it personally. I went back, found my way into a group, and now I play with those guys all the time. They were way better than me back then because I was new to the sport and I really really sucked. Now the competition's pretty even, mainly because I was able to play with those guys and it upped my game.

So there's a feel good story for you about league play. Most of the guys aren't actually dicks, it can just seem that way sometimes. This isn't to say there aren't dicks who play league rounds, but I'd bet that more often than not, what comes off as douchebaggery is really just miscommunication or misunderstanding.

 

[Future_Primitive]

Oh man, please tell me you didn't base your entire view of Leagues and pace of play off of a round or two at the notorious Cass Benton course. :doh:

That course has one of the worst reputations (fair or unfair) in all of Michigan. Not to mention it is almost always packed unless you are there super early in the morning. There was quite a back and forth between some local league players and non league players on Disc Golf Scene, check the Talk section for Cass if you dare. It is where I first heard about the "C*******s" who populate the course.

I play with a lot of players who live near there yet drive somewhere else to play as the tensions and crowds at the course are not worth it. Please do yourself a favor and try any other league at any other course before blasting league players again. You might find out Cass is more the exception rather than the norm around Michigan leagues. :thmbup:

 

[The Yodeler]

Oh man, please tell me you didn't base your entire view of Leagues and pace of play off of a round or two at the notorious Cass Benton course. :doh:

That course has one of the worst reputations (fair or unfair) in all of Michigan. Not to mention it is almost always packed unless you are there super early in the morning. There was quite a back and forth between some local league players and non league players on Disc Golf Scene, check the Talk section for Cass if you dare. It is where I first heard about the "C*******s" who populate the course.

I play with a lot of players who live near there yet drive somewhere else to play as the tensions and crowds at the course are not worth it. Please do yourself a favor and try any other league at any other course before blasting league players again. You might find out Cass is more the exception rather than the norm around Michigan leagues. :thmbup:

I've been playing Cass for 5+ years, and it's definitely been declining as a course as of late. And I know I can't base my experience with leaguers on just Cass, which is why I didn't single it out. I've played with other leaguers at Kensington, Hudson Mills, Willow, etc, and I must say, my claims are not baseless. I know there are generally nice people who play leagues, but I was saying there are quite a few who can be quite inconsiderate.
As far as Cass goes, it is quite deserving of its awful reputation. Poor upkeep from the county, vandalism, littering, lots of over crowding, "extra curricular" activites that take place at every picnic table throughout...Basically speaking, it's a cess pool that has so much potential to be an incredible course.