Hyzer flipping, how is it done?

[Titan037]

I am curious to hear yalls thoughts and techniques on hyzer flipping. My backhand is really getting to a good level now and with the right disc I think I may be able to hyzer flip something to dead straight. So my question is what angle do you release your hyzer and what disc are you using? oh and just for reference I can drive about 350 pretty consistently currently. Curious to hear thoughts on flipping mids and putters too

 

[dusty5150]

The angle of release depends on the disc. All that will help you figure it out is field work. For example I can get a beat up Roadrunner to fly the same as a brand new Renegade if I change the angle and how hard I throw it. Grab a couple flippy discs, hit a field and mess around with angles.

 

[kyledstauffer]

I've only recently added the hyzer flip to my game and it's been the single most awesome throwing revelation for me! Basically, the key is you have to really understand your discs, each one responds differently to different amounts of hyzer. For instance I throw my underworld on probably 35 degrees hyzer and it will flip up to flat and still finish right at the end. My swords I throw with about 20 degrees hyzer and they flip up, turn right a bit and finish left.

Recently, I find that putting a tad bit of hyzer on amlost everything now helps with consistency and accuracy.

 

[Crazy Runner Guy]

What discs? I throw my seasoned 170 DX Teebird, 167 Pro Leo, and 175 DX Roc on varying degrees of hyzer if I want them to go straight.

How much hyzer? Only knowing your discs will tell you that.

 

[JedV]

My advice is to throw (and follow through) on a hyzer plane. And really work on keeping the nose of the disc down to engage the turn, which is the 'flip' portion of the throw.

Try something understable like a Cobra, Meteor or Fuse. Slower discs are way easier to flip than drivers unless they are beat to crap DX/Pro-D/baseline plastic.

 

[Horsman]

Take your flippiest driver, mid, putter. Throw it low and with a lot of hyzer. Watch it work wonders.

I use, beat rocs, Eagles, teebirds, destroyers for my hyzer flip duties. Mainly a lot of rocs and teebirds.

 

[pmorgan1214]

the hyzer flip is a awsome shot and needs to be in everyones arsenal. I take an extremely understable disc such as my underworld. i release it on a hyzer and due to the understable ability of the disc it rolls up very nicely and flies straight for about 300+ feet or if i do less hyzer will actually flip up and do a nice s curve. i use the hyzer flip for tunnel shots that require low height and good distance.

 

[tampabay]

Hyzer flip is more of an explanation as to whats happening than a technique. If you throw something understable with hyzer, the result is a hyzer flip. I with Horsman that you just grab something flippy, give it hyzer and keep it flat and there you have it.

If you really want to work on it, grab a Diamond or a Fuse.

 

[garublador]

The initial trajectory of the disc matters, too:

https://www.dgcoursereview.com/dgr/resources/articles/angles.shtml

 

[Horsman]

the hyzer flip is a awsome shot and needs to be in everyones arsenal. I take an extremely understable disc such as my underworld. i release it on a hyzer and due to the understable ability of the disc it rolls up very nicely and flies straight for about 300+ feet or if i do less hyzer will actually flip up and do a nice s curve. i use the hyzer flip for tunnel shots that require low height and good distance.

I would not say that it takes an extremely understable disc to do at all. Its easier to see the concept when you are first starting to try it if you use a really understable disc but I use slightly beat rocs for nice hyzer flips that hold a little anyhyzer forever. It really matters more what you want the end result to be.

 

[dsb1829]

I most often use a Roc3 for this shot, but have been getting good results with MVP Vector as well. I use a D4 or Beast if I want to do this with a driver. You may notice the mids are stable-OS yet drivers are understable. I throw these differently. Drivers I send out at maybe 80% power which gives better accuracy. The mids I crank out at full power plus some OAT. The mids thrown this way are a laser out past 250' before they even start to fade. I release at nearly 45 degrees on the disc compared to maybe 20-30 degrees for the us drivers.

I suggest throwing what you have to see what they can do. You might be surprised. I typically stay with the mentioned discs, but have tried everything from OS putters to understable drivers. Power and torque will likely steer you to your favorites.

 

[whentherainscome]

I'm curious how you've worked your BH out to 350' w/o discovering this on the way.

Back before I read about DG on the internet (or at all), when my friends and I were so very awesomely bad and our FLX Surge SSs and Roadrunners started turning way too hard I flippin' invented hyzer-flippin! At least I thought I had at the time.

 

[jhoover]

hyzer flipage

Get a copy of the latest Disc Golf magazine. I get it in the mail for free from being a pdga member. There is a great article on hyzer flipping that I wish I had read a year ago!

 

[Horsman]

I'm curious how you've worked your BH out to 350' w/o discovering this on the way.

Back before I read about DG on the internet (or at all), when my friends and I were so very awesomely bad and our FLX Surge SSs and Roadrunners started turning way too hard I flippin' invented hyzer-flippin! At least I thought I had at the time.

Bigger arms have no problem hitting 350 without a hyzer flip. I know I can throw a straight hyzer 400'

 

[luckless_pedestrian]

I stumbled across this on my own with a Ruby. You don't have to throw that hard at all for a nice flip and turn. Cool to see the concept actually come to life. My brother's got a Merry Christmas champ Leopard that is ready for him to flip. I'm debating whether or not to show him.

 

[HeavyCritters]

The only time I try to hyzer flip anything is if I've got a slight headwind coming at me and I don't want to 'disc up' to throw into it.

Works pretty well. I may need to grab a couple of old Valkyries and do some non windy practicing.

 

[Alcuin]

The key is to throw a hyzer in front of you, and throw it low to make sure the nose is down enough to get the disc to turn enough to flatten the hyzer out.

You can throw a pure hyzer with any disc, no matter how flippy, and to do so the apex of your shot is going to be more to the right and higher in the air than your hyzer flip hyzer. If I want to hyzer flip a disc so that it ends up 350' in front of me on a straight laser, I'm throwing an understable disc on a hyzer line that would probably result in a line that hyzers out hard into the ground at about 150' or so and would likely skip three holes over. But since the disc is understable, it flips up off of that hyzer and goes straight instead.

So the hyzer flip can feel strange sometimes, because you're actually throwing one line and using the disc to transform it into a totally different line. It might be difficult at first to get yourself to throw that line, but after a little practice it will feel natural to you and if you're like me, you'll do it all the time.

I love hyzer flipping my beat Ion, beat Comet, beat 1.1 QOLF, beat Teebird, Rivers, and Pro and Star Destroyers. It's a fun line to throw, and an extremely valuable one on the course.

 

[BogeyNoMore]

I use a spatula to flip hyzers...

 

[HyzerUniBomber]

I've just recently started shaping my shots. Being new to dg, almost all my field work was revolving around throwing flat shots, hyzers and anyhzers.

It was out of simple necessity that I started hyzer flipping my RoadRunner. As I threw it more - the damn thing would go further and further right. I kept adding hyzer to it to fight off that right turn and then after a while I realized that I could consistently flip it and keep it going the direction I wanted and get some pretty huge extra distance out of it.

Then I moved onto doing that with a Valk that was pretty beat in.

Obvious stuff for the guys who have been doing it forever, but for me it was huge.

Along those lines, I do the opposite with my overstable drivers - adding anyhzer to them. I assume (and I could be completely wrong here) that is what people call an "S" shot? Doing that, I'm getting some of my longest drives now... banging up against 400' pretty regularly and I only do a slow walk up cross step.

 

[Questatement]

If you really want to work on it, grab a Diamond or a Fuse.

However, be careful buying new discs so understable as to be on the verge of flipping over because they will be useless as anything but rollers in no time at all.

I much prefer premium plastic that beats into extreme understable.