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That "standing still" stuff was never a real rule. For discs that accidently hit the thrower or the thrower's equipment, there is a new rule to cover it:
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No 10 Meter Circle
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That "standing still" stuff was never a real rule. For discs that accidently hit the thrower or the thrower's equipment, there is a new rule to cover it:
And the silly feeling of having to "freeze" while a rollaway disc goes wandering around.
But I'll go with sidewinder, and go further; on long fairway throws, standstill would destroy my old knees. I can hardly do it at 100' now, as it is.
Standstill, as a rule to solve footfaults, always strikes me as a cures that's worse than the disease.
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I'd simply the rules, so that only your follow through well after release can take either foot beyond the lie. The circle wouldn't matter anymore except for stats. Anything resembling the current step or jump putt would be illegal unless you landed on the lie instead of beyond it and then followed through beyond it. I would think this would be a rather easy judgement call for players to make. :\
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What's "well after release" mean?
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About one Mississippi.
mosman253
Bogey Member
You have three other people you can ask to spot for you,this situation occurs even with the current rule set, your not stuck with stand still you can still do you flying run up you just cant lift that plant foot from the the lie until the completion of the throw or when acknowledged by your card mates. Your off foot can follow through. i imagine you could look at your card mates and get a nod after the throw and move off. As far as moving out of the way of a flying disc,nobody is going to give you a footfault for that.you penalized yourself with that throw. Safety first.
Step putts from anywhere no more circle.
Standstill shots could be acknoledged before the throw. Allowing you to walk off an unsafe position/lie. Or the belly flop maneuver.
LOL, still trying to get rid of the Euro step of disc golf for dubious reasons I see.
mosman253
Bogey Member
Not sure what euro step is.but if it illicits thoughts of "was that legal?" Then yes. Yes please.:thmbup:
Please elaborate.
2naphish
Birdie Member
i like the original rules the best... "Fairway throws must be made from directly behind the lie. A run-up and normal follow-through, after release, is allowed, unless the lie is within 10 meters of the target. Any shot within 10 meters of the target requires that the player not move past the lie until the disc is at rest."
That's better than "demonstrate balance". But if people can't tell whether someone steps forward before releasing---two events that happen at virtually the same place---I can imagine arguments about whether someone stepped forward before a disc came to rest, much further away.
I believe what he meant was that the rule being 10 meters is arbitrary. Why not 9 meters? Why not 15?
I'll never understand why the PDGA just doesn't add/modify a rule and just state... "At the time your disc is released, both feet (regardless if on the ground or in the air) must be behind your marker." Players can still jump, step, stand still, etc, etc. Faults would be so much easier to call if player is inclined to do so. What is the problem with this proposal? Heck..you could possibly eliminate the 10 meter rule as well if this gets implemented. Call me thick...but after 4 years of pdga tournaments...I'm not seeing any problem with this proposal.
There's a reason the rules say "supporting points" rather than specific body parts. I doubt we'd ever see a rule that specifies where one's feet must be during a throw. If it's not on the ground as a supporting point during a throw, why should one's foot be treated differently than one's elbow or knee or hand or head?
How would that be different than the current rule, other than for the handful of step-through putters?
mosman253
Bogey Member
no more silly circles! just keep the plant foot in the lie and we dont need circles or ovals or whetever weird designation of "you can do this type of throw/putt from here but not if your over there".
Mosman for change 2018
Mosman for change 2018
Dcinmd
Double Eagle Member
Since you are not limiting your proposal to the inside of the putting circle.
I understand why. Proper technique requires that you follow thru on your throws. With your proposal you'll open up a whole new cans of worms of where the off foot was at the release of the disc.
The community struggles with where the plant foot is at the release as it stands now.
Casey 1988
Shun the frumious Bandersnatch!
I would eliminate step though on any and every lie. That would make it so we do not need a 10 meter circle.
Casey 1988
Shun the frumious Bandersnatch!
But make the rule supporting points must be behind the marker or disc for all throws until disc has come to rest. 99% of the time the disc will come to rest normally and not just keep going on a windy day roller on a course they do not have ob for the end of a hole that goes out into open field with no boundary for end of course on that hole.
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But, I need to run ahead and see where my disc is going into the tree line around the corner!
In my world, a bunch of the holes are blind holes. And even when they're not, I throw off the fairway into blind spots. How do I know when the disc comes to rest?
My errant throw searches have led me to believe a lot of discs did not come to rest where I thought they did....probably not when I thought they did, either.
You'd do a little better if you made it until the disc contacts something (ground, tree, basket), or perhaps when it hits or passes the basket. Not enough to suit me, but better.
