400' now what?

[Squirrilah Fish]

They said it would take a year to years, but after playing very intensively with a lot of thought, patience, research and practice, I recorded my first 400' throw.
I acheived this mile stone with the TL3 (8401) since then, I've done it with some 9, and 11 speed discs as well, but not really getting more than 400' out of them.

When I hear pro' talk about their discs they often say things like "will fly 450-500' easy, my question is, how many players out there are really throwing 450+ when I'm out at my local course, and play with random, more experienced people, I'm usually right with them, and they are always baffled when I tell them I have only been playing for a few months.

I guess, in addition to bragging about 400', am wondering what comes next, do I keep up the dilligence? Is 450' possible, common? Would I hit it with the same disc, or should I start moving up to 12,13's. I have a lot of high speed discs, but I don't really throw higher than an 11. One, because I don't need to, and 2 because I can throw an 11 better than a 13, and generally can throw a 9 further and better, or atleast the same as an 11. Most of my shots don't get above 9 speed. The majority of my throws are a DD Truth midrange which consistently flies 300-350' with tremendous accuracy. So I have had a lot of focus on throwing straight, throwing clean, and flat. I wanted to hit 400, and now that I have I feel like I need to be working on more. How achievable is 450' should I just focus on more techniques and the distance will come. Everyone told me just keep playing and 400' will come. It came a lot sooner than even I expected, but now what.

 

[rocthecourse]

If you threw 400' with a TL3 you should easily be able to throw 450' with the right disc, something like a Nuke or Katana.

 

[keltik]

practice putting

 

[sidewinder22]

Keep hucking your TL3 further for improvement. You should be able to hit 450' though with a lightweight high speed disc, I like Blizzard Bosses which holds the current distance record twice. Ken Jarvis threw a Teebird 810'.

 

[eric40817]

arent these world distance records on desert land or salt flats with high wind as well?

 

[sidewinder22]

arent these world distance records on desert land or salt flats with high wind as well?

I've heard of unofficial throws further that went further and weren't in those conditions.

 

[Mattallica]

practice putting

This, and practice throwing mids, as those will be the majority of your throws if you can throw a fairway that far.

 

[Squirrilah Fish]

I've seen videos of Wiggins throw. It was pretty cool, but isn't a practical disc golf shot.
Thanks for the tips. I definitely need to work on putting. I have 9 putters, and im still trying to figure out which one suits best. I really like the Judge, as a driving putter, and I throw a MVP Ion both driving and ITC. I also recently got a Salient Touch, and I have been digging that. Although OTC I have had the best luck with a DD Suspect. I have so many discs.
I think I'm going to work my Blizzard Krait now. I took it out of the bag, because i could throw a Saint further/better, but I think it's time to revisit it.
That's crazy about the 800' TL, but I believe it. The TL3 is AMAZING. I have 3 of them now, all first runs. (I work at PIAS, which obviously has it's perks.)

 

[Squirrilah Fish]

This, and practice throwing mids, as those will be the majority of your throws if you can throw a fairway that far.

Yep, my main disc that I throw more than any other is a DD Truth. I get that guy 300-350 consistently,

 

[Squirrilah Fish]

If you threw 400' with a TL3 you should easily be able to throw 450' with the right disc, something like a Nuke or Katana.

I'll have to put those guys in the bag too. I have a Nuke, and a Nuke SS, which is exactly the same as a Katana

 

[dreadlock86]

congrats on 400'! i wish i were as diligent when i first started.

That's crazy about the 800' TL, but I believe it.

it was a teebird not a TL. but it's still crazy.

If you threw 400' with a TL3 you should easily be able to throw 450' with the right disc, something like a Nuke or Katana.

i'd take this with a grain of salt, even though it's technically true. is an extra 50' worth the likely decrease in control and accuracy? sounds like you're on the right path already. i think experimenting with different lines will help you get to 450 and 500.

 

[HeavyCritters]

They said it would take a year to years, but after playing very intensively with a lot of thought, patience, research and practice, I recorded my first 400' throw.
I acheived this mile stone with the TL3 (8401) since then, I've done it with some 9, and 11 speed discs as well, but not really getting more than 400' out of them.

When I hear pro' talk about their discs they often say things like "will fly 450-500' easy, my question is, how many players out there are really throwing 450+ when I'm out at my local course, and play with random, more experienced people, I'm usually right with them, and they are always baffled when I tell them I have only been playing for a few months.

I guess, in addition to bragging about 400', am wondering what comes next, do I keep up the dilligence? Is 450' possible, common? Would I hit it with the same disc, or should I start moving up to 12,13's. I have a lot of high speed discs, but I don't really throw higher than an 11. One, because I don't need to, and 2 because I can throw an 11 better than a 13, and generally can throw a 9 further and better, or atleast the same as an 11. Most of my shots don't get above 9 speed. The majority of my throws are a DD Truth midrange which consistently flies 300-350' with tremendous accuracy. So I have had a lot of focus on throwing straight, throwing clean, and flat. I wanted to hit 400, and now that I have I feel like I need to be working on more. How achievable is 450' should I just focus on more techniques and the distance will come. Everyone told me just keep playing and 400' will come. It came a lot sooner than even I expected, but now what.

 

[bogeyfreetilinfinity]

now just make EVERY putt inside 40 ft

 

[BogeyNoMore]

Learn to knock down putts... consistently.

P.S. I didn't even read ^that post...until after I clicked "Post Quick Reply"

 

[Squirrilah Fish]

Yes, I want to get a basket so bad. But I just splurged and bought a Helix Bag from Salient. I practice putting into my Sofa. Or outside in my front yard trying to hit the vertical bar on the hand rail of my porches front steps, but it's not the same. I'll get one for Xmas at the very least.
Putting has been a process for me. I'm a spin putter, I try to emulate EMAC, I'm pretty good at 20 feet about 80% decent at 30 feet about 66%. So I know I need some work there. In fact we what keeps me from scoring most days is putting. I'll have a terrific drive but then, usually end up 2 putting for par, I do get a good amount of birdies (about 15% per Udisc) admittedly I have been more concerned with throwing to the basket then getting it in, I'm happy if I'm getting pars, but I know I need to throw down a lot more birdies if I'm going to compete at the level I want to someday.

 

[DiscJunkie]

I have seen noobs with a natural affinity for Disc Golf.
Their pace of development can be mind-boggling.
My only advice is to keep it fun.
Practice and learn and grow, but keep it fun.

 

[Kodachrome]

Putt better and throw 400' consistently, not just once. This is a hard plateau to break. I throw 415-430 on the regular, not in the woods though. But It is a combo of a lot of things to push past 450 regularly. My absolute max on a perfect throw is 450-460. I was in the same bucket as you last fall and it has taken me a year to get this far-still not satisfied either, just like you. . It is about exploring your limits and potential. Keep trying to throw farther and keeping throwing better. Above all, focus on your consistency. Not distance wise, but overall. Distance and lines and control.

 

[Darkgreen]

They said it would take a year to years, but after playing very intensively with a lot of thought, patience, research and practice, I recorded my first 400' throw.
I acheived this mile stone with the TL3 (8401) since then, I've done it with some 9, and 11 speed discs as well, but not really getting more than 400' out of them.

Congratulations. If you would, I would love to hear more about your process. What videos you watched, what articles or posts you read, what worked and what didn't work, practice routines, things about your form that you found to be most important to reaching 400'.

 

[Dan Ensor]

Keep up the diligence. If you hit 400' in a few months, you can throw further. Also, things that make you throw further will also improve your accuracy.

 

[Squirrilah Fish]

Congratulations. If you would, I would love to hear more about your process. What videos you watched, what articles or posts you read, what worked and what didn't work, practice routines, things about your form that you found to be most important to reaching 400'.

Oh man, it'll be hard to list all the videos. I watched the Beto drill, and did that ALOT. (Basically start with a standing throw, then a one step throw, then a 2 step throw, then work up to an x-step throw) I watched almost all the Discraft clinics, the "more distance now" and pretty much any I could find. I did the towel drill for hours on end. (Go through the throwing motion with a towel, trying to get as loud of a snap as you can while still maintaining form. I experimented with different grips, to find what worked best, and gave me enough snap. One huge adjustment I made, or corrected was my thumb placement, keeping it flat on the plate, and getting good pressure, I found this helped me keep the disc nose down, and flat. I came up with an acronym that I go through before throwing called disc GARF = Grip, Arn, Release, Follow through. Just focusing and preparing each of these elements, in that order. And a lot of it was just going out into a field for hours in end and throwing my whole bag, starting with putters and working my way up.

I like throwing putters because they give you the best fead back as far as how your releasing, how straight your throwing, where your release point is. Also messing with different lines. Learning to through a forced anhyzer with good spin. One term I came across that helped me get better spin/grip was "pivot point" where the disc leaves you hand, and how it affects it's flight. Another point I came across, was don't sacrifice speed for power. You can put a lot of "power" and tension into a throw, but it's not necessarily going to equate to arm speed. Also the phrase control = distance. A perfect form shot at 80% is going to go way further than an uncontrolled shot at 100%

I've thrown 4 disc total 400+ now. Still not hitting it on every throw. But happy it wasn't just a fluke. TL3, Sidewinder, Saint, and Renegade.