Where Should Pro Worlds Go?

[New013]

Okay so the two course format has been set which opens up a lot more possibilities for where Pro Worlds can be set.

If you could pick the locations yourself what are the Top 5 places Pro Worlds should go after Smugglers Notch?

 

[DavidSauls]

Probably not the top choice, but it would be interesting to see it back in Charlotte, Renny & Nevin, with no softening of the courses. And a clear cell signal, for those who care.

There'd be an argument for Selah Ranch, on the basis of the courses' reputations.

 

[bhadella]

Probably not the top choice, but it would be interesting to see it back in Charlotte, Renny & Nevin, with no softening of the courses. And a clear cell signal, for those who care.

There'd be an argument for Selah Ranch, on the basis of the courses' reputations.

It would be interesting what holes would be lengthened at Nevin to challenge those guys. 2, 13 and 15 are almost gimmes at that level. And a few would be interesting to see how many of the par fours the guys would take risks to try to get 2s on. 4, 9, 14, 18 could be 2'd with really aggressive 500' drives.

 

[bhadella]

They are pretty far apart but Iron Hill and Nockamixon would be a pair I'd love to see.

 

[Cgkdisc]

It might be difficult to find two Gold level courses near each other with enough balance of open and wooded holes between them. I'm thinking maybe you find a populated area with a good wooded gold course paired with a golf course type venue available to design a long gold temp course, especially if the goal is to get more spectators.

 

[bhadella]

They are pretty far apart but Iron Hill and Nockamixon would be a pair I'd love to see.

Forgot about Tyler State Park too......so some combination of those 3 with a host hotel in between them.

 

[bwgort]

It might be difficult to find two Gold level courses near each other with enough balance of open and wooded holes between them. I'm thinking maybe you find a populated area with a good wooded gold course paired with a golf course type venue available to design a long gold temp course, especially if the goal is to get more spectators.

I'm sure cities are lining up to get their proposals ready!

 

[DiscJunkie]

Did I miss something?
I don't want to de-rail the thread, but is the 4-round, 2 course format written in stone somewhere?
Not an unqualified success in everyone's opinion...

 

[DavidSauls]

Did I miss something?
I don't want to de-rail the thread, but is the 4-round, 2 course format written in stone somewhere?
Not an unqualified success in everyone's opinion...

What was the consensus opinion of the players? Not the entire field, but the players close enough to the top that we can say were actually competing for the championship?

My guess is that it's not written in stone, but is a pretty sure thing for the next couple of years----barring a huge outcry from the players, or the future hosts.

 

[bhadella]

Did I miss something?
I don't want to de-rail the thread, but is the 4-round, 2 course format written in stone somewhere?
Not an unqualified success in everyone's opinion...

Yes, it is written into stone.

http://www.pdga.com/files/pdga_2019_pro_worlds_bid_process_-final.pdf

Schedule:
• Singles rounds are held Wednesday through Saturday (4 total rounds, two on
each course. No semifinals or Finals. Shuffle will take place Thursday night.)
• Awards Ceremony is held on Saturday following the final round."

 

[DavidSauls]

My hasty county shows 77 courses in the U.S. that are (1) at least 8,000 feet, (2) 18-20 holes, and (3) rated at least 4.0.

None of which are absolute prerequisites, of course, but it does look like there aren't a huge number of top-quality gold-level courses to choose from. Other than a temp course---on a golf course (ugh) as Chuck suggests, or elsewhere---we might see a gold/blue combination somewhere, with the blue-level course tightened up as much as is reasonably possible.

 

[mullethead326]

What was the consensus opinion of the players? Not the entire field, but the players close enough to the top that we can say were actually competing for the championship?

My guess is that it's not written in stone, but is a pretty sure thing for the next couple of years----barring a huge outcry from the players, or the future hosts.

What I heard from most folks was 4 was a little too short. A cut to the cash line and a 5th round of 18 holes, or just 5 rounds, seemed to be where most MPO players were hoping Worlds would go. A little longer than a standard big event, but not a 6-7 round slog.

 

[DavidSauls]

What I heard from most folks was 4 was a little too short. A cut to the cash line and a 5th round of 18 holes, or just 5 rounds, seemed to be where most MPO players were hoping Worlds would go. A little longer than a standard big event, but not a 6-7 round slog.

Thanks. I've heard plenty from the peanut gallery, but no way (for me) to know what the top pros were thinking about it.

 

[DiscJunkie]

Did I miss something?
I don't want to de-rail the thread, but is the 4-round, 2 course format written in stone somewhere?

Yes, it is written into stone.

http://www.pdga.com/files/pdga_2019_pro_worlds_bid_process_-final.pdf

While I understand the PDGA has its reasons for going to the simplified format (expanding the number of possible host cities is probably a big one),
I don't have to like it, sadness.

bhadella, Thanks for the timely and accurate info.

\ format discussion.

Resume original thread please.

 

[brutalbrutus]

It might be difficult to find two Gold level courses near each other with enough balance of open and wooded holes between them. I'm thinking maybe you find a populated area with a good wooded gold course paired with a golf course type venue available to design a long gold temp course, especially if the goal is to get more spectators.

Idlewild would certainly qualify, but would the new(I only say new because I don't know when you last played there, but its been a couple years) Mt Airy long layout be worthy of being gold?

I've always thought Airy would be a great spectator course, but we might have to get the city involved to close down the streets to thru traffic during the rounds....

 

[BionicRib]

1. If linbrook ever gets that extra nine in and deer lakes got a pinch longer Pittsburgh would be a great place.

2.Milo

3.Charlotte

4. Selah maybe.

5. I know the courses are not there, but somewhere in the Chicago area would be sweet. Doesnt northern illinois, southern wisconsin, northern Indiana and Southwest Michigan have the highest concentration of active pdga members?....might be good for spectators/sponsors.

Just my two cents

 

[brutalbrutus]

1. If linbrook ever gets that extra nine in and deer lakes got a pinch longer Pittsburgh would be a great place.

2.Milo

3.Charlotte

4. Selah maybe.

5. I know the courses are not there, but somewhere in the Chicago area would be sweet. Doesnt northern illinois, southern wisconsin, northern Indiana and Southwest Michigan have the highest concentration of active pdga members?....might be good for spectators/sponsors.

Just my two cents

They were at Lemon Lake not to long ago... Never played there, so i'm not sure it would be good with the new format.

 

[Cgkdisc]

Actually Lemon Lake might be even better for this new format. The Gold course there already matches the Jackson/Ft. Gordon SSA and has been vetted in World Class competition. Now that the EAB has opened up a chunk of the red course, you should be able to design a relatively open gold SSA 65+ course using whatever sections you needed from the Blue, Red & White courses. It would even look more natural than a golf course with ropes. Lemon Lake is also dubbed a PDGA Regional Center making it a logical choice for a future venue.

 

[BionicRib]

After all the drama at lemon lake I would be surprised if worlds came back. It would be nice, but I don't see it happening.

 

[ejvogie]

It might be difficult to find two Gold level courses near each other with enough balance of open and wooded holes between them. I'm thinking maybe you find a populated area with a good wooded gold course paired with a golf course type venue available to design a long gold temp course, especially if the goal is to get more spectators.

Oh, good. Hyzer-fest. Color me bored.