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[Question] What's the worst disc you've ever had/thrown?

GoobyPls

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Most threads on here deal with discs that are pretty good at something. But we've all thrown something that seemed like the plastic would have been better used as a bedpan. What are some of the worst things you've thrown on the course? Yes, I expect to see a lot of Grooves on here.

Possible reasons might include:

Didn't fly like it was advertised to
Deformed easily
Poor color/stamp
Took too long to break in
Gimmicky mold/material

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In my case it's a tie between two unpopular (for a reason) Innova discs. The first distance driver I bought myself was a Monarch. It had a clear flight plate with a tie-dyed rim. This should have been my first clue that it would be impossible to find. The Groove-like channel on the rim made it unreliable as hell, too. I felt like the clerk who convinced me I'd like it should be brought up on charges.

The other contender was a DX Dragon given to me by a buddy. I was moving, and my new home course has water on 6 holes. I told this to my friend, who offered me his used DX Dragon. It floats in water! And if you tried to use it, you'd find out why it has to. Good luck putting more than 200' of power on it without it flipping over 180 degrees. I've never seen anything like it, and hopefully never will again.

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So what's the worst thing you've ever thrown?
 
Pretty much anything tie dye. Got a few when I was new thinking they looked cool spinning through the air... and I still think that but when they hide in plain site and take 45 minutes to find or get lost in relatively open holes. F- them. Bright colors reds and yellows and Pinks from now on.
 
Yep, the Groove would be right up there. I found one on the course and threw it a few times. It svcked.

But i think the disc that disappointed me most was the 165g Star Valkyrie I bought that was just a glideless, overstable brick. I did the hot water treatments, threw it into a brick wall many times, and tried to use it for months to wear it in. No luck; it might as well have been a Firebird. It's still as bad now, even though my own form has improved a lot over time.

I also disliked the Atlas enough to give it away.
 
Anything in very flexible plastic like a DGA Gumbputt or Trilogy's megasoft plastic is just too floppy for my tastes.

I never clicked with blizzard/air discs. I've tried lots, but never seem to catch on with discs that are less than about 167 gms.
 
I'd have to say the Innova Wolf. I thought it had a purpose and I even defended it in an older thread. I think it's terrible now. I tried it out & it's pretty bad. It lacks glide & only comes in DX. The only thing it has going for it is it's name. It starts out understable. I could see it becoming way too understable in a short period of time, if you play wooded courses. Seriously who wants a flippy disc with no glide? I think the Thumtrac was a bad idea for a flippy midrange. Thumtracs seem to work better with overstable molds. I could go on about other weird molds like the Turbo Putt, the Wheel or the 10M Brick. I pick the Wolf because it's from a popular brand, isn't "gimmicky" like Quest discs, is PDGA approved & is a crappy mold.
 
GStar Dominator.
Had very little turn until it was mashed on... then flipped like mad. Seemed like it had an on/off switch after breaking 400 feet or something. Little glide and just like sluggishly meandered down the fairway in quite the inconsistent manner.
Also, DX Wraiths are impressively useless.
 
I'd have to say the Innova Wolf. I thought it had a purpose and I even defended it in an older thread. I think it's terrible now. I tried it out & it's pretty bad. It lacks glide & only comes in DX. The only thing it has going for it is it's name. It starts out understable. I could see it becoming way too understable in a short period of time, if you play wooded courses. Seriously who wants a flippy disc with no glide? I think the Thumtrac was a bad idea for a flippy midrange. Thumtracs seem to work better with overstable molds. I could go on about other weird molds like the Turbo Putt, the Wheel or the 10M Brick. I pick the Wolf because it's from a popular brand, isn't "gimmicky" like Quest discs, is PDGA approved & is a crappy mold.



Well, if people can express their dislike for a disc, I think anyone should be able to respond with a "on the other hand" reply. So, here's mine.

I don't currently bag a Wolf, but have in the past, using it primarily as a substitute for a straight to turnover putter/approach disc. It has a very squarish feel to it that I suppose put me off at first. But, I grew accustomed to it quickly, and didn't mind the feel after that. It is understable, but, in my view, it is not as understable as people make it out to be. For me, it would go dead straight on soft approach shots, and with a little more power, it allowed easy anhyzer throws.

A friend of mine uses a Wolf exclusively as his putter. It seems unusual, but it works for him.

DX plastic does break in fast, but it is cheap also. Buy some more of them. And thumb your nose at everyone else (like myself, I suppose) whose bags are just too conventional. I love the idea of rockin' weird discs, and getting birdies with them.
 
FAF Firebird.
Uselessly overstable to me since I can't throw overhand. Way too much effort to throw the thing.
 
I have to agree with OP. The damn Monarch is my nemesis. My buddy that I always play with used to swear by the monarch. He could throw it well on ever hole imaginable. He didn't throw any harder than I did. (We both also bagged destroyers, firebirds, etc.) so I decided to try one picked up a nice used one and went out to play. First hole at my local course is over water and I've never lost a disc to it, until that day. First drive with it and boom, gone forever.
Thinking it was a bad shot, a few months later I bought another one. Different course, different hole, first throw ever and boom. Gone forever. I gave up on throwing monarchs that day. I will never even think about buying another one...


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One off season I really tried to give the Wolf an honest shot. I never quite got why you would need a flippy disc with no glide, but they make it so it has to have a use, right? I threw them on second shots after I'd thrown a Roc or XD and 90% of the time I'd think "good Lord this disc sucks." They had been making them for years, though. They really couldn't suck that bad, could they? I found myself compelled to find a use for it.

To summarize my findings: The Wolf is doggie-toy understable with no glide. Give it any juice and it turns and burns. If you power down on it enough to keep it from turning and burning it doesn't go anywhere. What the...? Who asked for that? "Hey, Mr. Dunipace? Can you design a midrange that is impossible to throw hard and drops like a brick if you finesse it? Thanks."

I kept thinking that there had to be something more to it, like a universal truth that will be revealed to you if you can figure out what in the World that disc is good for. I won't fall for the tired old "it's a good roller" line because you can beat a Cobra into a better roller than a Wolf in a half hour. There HAD to be some other reason for the Wolf.

All I ever figured out was that after I'd thrown the Wolf a little bit, I loved the Roc like I've never loved before. Maybe that's the reason for the Wolf. Throwing one makes you appreciate all the discs that fly better than it (which is going to be every disc in your bag. :| )
 
Groove, Dominator, Vulcan, Wolf, Monarch, Dragon, Wahoo, any DX driver besides TeeBirds (they make great water/junk/possibility of losing discs) are all common and good answers. My truly worst disc experience is with an Opto River. It was flippy past the point of usefulness in 2 rounds. Actually almost all of the Lat 64 plastic I've thrown has beaten in really fast though my DD and WS stay fresh much longer.
 
I tested out a 175g pop-top C-PD2 and it was the most impossible disc I've ever thrown. I know my way around FAF Firebirds but this thing was useless to me. Way too fast and ridiculously OS. Couldn't figure out what to do with it. Even on my strongest FH attempts it immediately wanted to fight off to the right and dig into the ground.
 
And thumb your nose at everyone else (like myself, I suppose) whose bags are just too conventional. I love the idea of rockin' weird discs, and getting birdies with them.
I agree that throwing unconventional discs is cool. At one point in time I used a Champion Dart as my throwing putter. It was oddly satisfying getting weird looks from people when I pulled it out of my bag. It was money in tailwinds & on downhill shots. It just had a lot of dome so it wasn't great in any cross or headwind. So I took it out. I bagged a Champ Atlas for awhile. Some guys definitely gave me weird looks at tournaments. My point is I agree with you. There's just no way I could even find a weird niche in my bag for the Wolf. IMHO it was just bad at everything. Like at least the Dart was good in tailwinds. I bag almost exclusively popular/conventional molds. With the Pig being the only exception (still has a decent following). I think there's a reason you rarely (if ever) see a pro with an "unconventional disc". Sure a few might bag an unpopular mold but not something just straight up weird. I think the perfect example is the Wolf. I've never seen anyone with a high rating (much less a top pro) bag a Wolf. Most Innova pros bag Makos, beat Rocs & Stingrays (mostly "older" Masters age guys). So it's obvious other molds are clearly better. I assume your friend isn't trying to go pro. I think everyone has the right to throw whatever they want. I definitely would never tell someone to take a disc out of their bag that they enjoy throwing. I just believe certain molds are clearly worse than others that are in the same category.
 
Opto Core. I have never had a disc fly so inconsistently. I just could never get a feel for how it was going to fly. Granted this was when I started but I didn't have the same problem with the Comet it was trying to replace. I was going through a Trilogy mode trying to make the bag all trilogy back then.

The other one for me was the Pig. I ordered a stiff Pig and was super excited to try it as it seemed to be a stability I would like (plus a lot of my family works with pigs). As soon as I held it once I knew it wouldn't work. It is the most uncomfortable disc I have ever tried.

Honorable mention, all low profile putters except the Zone.

To be fair, I have never tried a Groove or Wolf

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Groove, Dominator, Vulcan, Wolf, Monarch, Dragon, Wahoo, any DX driver besides TeeBirds (they make great water/junk/possibility of losing discs) are all common and good answers. My truly worst disc experience is with an Opto River. It was flippy past the point of usefulness in 2 rounds. Actually almost all of the Lat 64 plastic I've thrown has beaten in really fast though my DD and WS stay fresh much longer.

There are some other DX drivers besides the T-Bird that are very good. DX Eagle X, DX Eagle L, DX Gazelle, DX Whippet (X and L) these are a few molds that were designed for DX plastic. And even the DX Thunderbird which isn't designed for DX still turned out very nice in my opinion. But i agreed a lot of high wide wing suff sucks.
 
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