Innova63
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Not new, but a bit different when compared to most backpacks.
Got my Mahal before my first Grip bag...
All bags are collecting dust as I have gone the way of the cart...
Not new, but a bit different when compared to most backpacks.
I agree. Nobody put out a statement saying after 20 years in the disc golf business we have decided to put our efforts into making a great disc for the disc golf community… And then they bring out a Teebird clone
They just make a Teebird clone and put it in there stable Fairway Driver slot. No taking credit for the design
So your issue is with the seemingly dishonest marketing? Not the product? Clones are okay as long as you don't make a big deal about them? That makes less sense.
I know I sound obtuse. Not trying to be. Trying to figure out where the disc golf community draws the line.
Darn near every basket looks identical. Most discs at this point are clones of others. But a allegedly cloned bag draws the ire of the community.
That's different from a Teebird that is made in California and costs $15-20 getting copied as the Rival...which is made in California and costs $15-20.
This is probably the best argued debate I've ever seen on these boards. Both sides make some great points (sometimes), but the more I look at pics of these 2, the more it looks like a direct copy. Nobody with eyes can deny that. It's a fact. :|
I have a Voodoo Spinal tap 3 bag....one could argue that it's a ripoff of Grip...they went out of business. Not sure why.
User CP > edit options > scroll down > change 10 to 40 posts per page > ........ > profit.
So if you started a business by copying someone else and passing it off as your own creation you'd sleep soundly and look at yourself in the mirror with pride?
No part of you would feel guilt and shame?
Honestly, it's mostly not this egregious.
I mean kinda. It's a bit different between discs and bags, but yeah. They damn near cloned a bag and claimed it as their own. Rubs me the wrong way.
So this could just go to r/circlejerk at some point, bc it's not likely to end.
So this could just go to r/circlejerk at some point, bc it's not likely to end.
At some point like...130 posts ago?
How much $ did you get for the grocery bag? I've got quite a few I could unload....I went through the whole bag progression. Sold the prior bag to help pay for the next.
Grocery bag-->single shoulder Fade crunchbox-->Phenix custom(square bag style w/rhino liner on the bottom)with quad shocks-->Grip bag first release-->one of the first to get the Ridgeroller/Zuca release...
it would take some big balls to call your own product a rip-off the way ordb hasI think ODRB may be a viral marketing guru. By playing up the controversy, he has surely attracted more clicks and eyeballs than this thread would otherwise have gotten. Lots more product awareness.
But if the whole bag works the same, and is constructed in the same way, and it shares identical stylistic elements, even if it's 1" wider or shorter, it's still a copy. Even if they sew a phone pocket into the side. Or add a key clip. Still a copy. In my mind and under US law.
Inova Firefly. They even say Nate needed some more P2s, so we made this.
That's different from a Teebird that is made in California and costs $15-20 getting copied as the Rival...which is made in California and costs $15-20.
I feel like this comparison is not quite right. Innova made the original P2s. so you're saying that they're copying themselves?