So true, lol
Here's an example: James Conrad, Nate Doss, Paul McBeth all crush, right?
I spectated round one of the 2016 Minnesota Majestic and watched these three tee on Blue Ribbon's famous driving range hole.
Now, the teepad is elevated and the fairway is FLAT. I was standing at the ditch line spotting (just in case).
Paul McBeth cleared the ditch by 30'ish. Nate Doss greased over the tall grass in the ditch. James Conrad (throwing a white star BOSS) hit the ditch, subsequently OB.
The ditch is in the neighborhood of 430' to 450', depending upon what line you take. McBeth cleared, Doss greased over, Conrad was short. It's crazy though, because everyone on these forums and Facebook can easily reach 400'+ on flat and probably be putting for two on the 760'er that is BRP's driving range hole, because it's downhill after all.