[Innova] All Things FIREBIRD

[sandelius]

My theory why Paul used FD3 and Monster instead of FireBird is the grip: The powergrip is more comfortable with wide rim discs (IMO). Paul uses powergrip instead of stack grip with forehand. FD3 rim (and Monster as well) is wider than FireBird's.

Paul also used to throw Destroyer on really short forehand hyzer shots. So I believe it's all about grip and comfort.

 

[wims]

My theory why Paul used FD3 and Monster instead of FireBird is the grip: The powergrip is more comfortable with wide rim discs (IMO). Paul uses powergrip instead of stack grip with forehand. FD3 rim (and Monster as well) is wider than FireBird's.

Paul also used to throw Destroyer on really short forehand hyzer shots. So I believe it's all about grip and comfort.

I thought the FD3 had the exact same bottom mold piece/rim as the Firebird. Literally the exact same feel

 

[mgamache8]

I thought the FD3 had the exact same bottom mold piece/rim as the Firebird. Literally the exact same feel

Same bottom piece yes, but the feel is not the same

 

[mgamache8]

Is it a Sexton FB? He was using those before the move to the FD3.



I wonder if the switch has more to do with going to an all-Innova bag than any other reason...

No, regular champion a d that's what I was thinking too

 

[sandelius]

rim thickness:
FD3 2.0
FB 1.9

 

[wims]

rim thickness:
FD3 2.0
FB 1.9

I wouldn't put too much trust in PDGA's official measurements. They aren't accurate

 

[plastic cannon]

It's just interesting, at least to me, that McBeth went through the Firebird, Monster, Sexton Firebird, then FD3s, and now back to FBs when it looked like he really liked the FD3s. Maybe Dave Dunipace will make him a FirebirdX3...

Maybe he needs a Viper! :hfive:

 

[SD86]

The cynic in me says that the reason he made the switches was because Innova won't take Kenny's name off the Champ Firebird. McBeth is just looking to his brand....

I think the only reason I've ever heard him give officially for switching away from Firebirds was they weren't quite "comfortable" for him or something to that effect. If that were true though, he wouldn't keep coming back to them...

You might be right about Climo's name on the Champ Firebird. Having said that... Paul really didn't seem comfortable with the Firebird (grip might be a reason, as someone said), but if it were all about name, why did he try the Sexton Firebird (and the 2017 USDGC Champ's name is NOT coming off those!)? My sense is that he likes the FD3, but like many other pros he is migrating to that all-Innova bag, as he could throw Discmania, but is not going to...

Or I could be completely out to lunch. Just idle speculation.

Idle speculation is what is fun about all this.

 

[mgamache8]

rim thickness:
FD3 2.0
FB 1.9

The fd3 uses the firebirds bottom. I would chalk it up to pdga not measuring perfectly

 

[Keith H]

not much recent talk on this thread, are the DX Firebirds still coming out decent?

im just adding some control drivers back to my bag after a period of focusing on form and throwing only mids / putters.

immediatly thinking of the DX Firebird to add back in. great for those long shots along the lakeshore that you want to be sure fades hard enough left at the end to avoid a swim.

 

[Keller]

not much recent talk on this thread, are the DX Firebirds still coming out decent?

Decent? Depends on what you consider decent.

I bought one last fall, it flew like a Valkyrie with no glide!
DX Banshees are better.

Hopefully, newer runs in DX will be better. Not holding my breath thoughopcorn:

 

[wims]

The first run DX Thunderbirds were great in this role, flat, inexpensive and quite overstable.

 

[Keith H]

really? thats too bad. i always liked to keep a couple of dx firebirds.

reliable, cheap and easy to find.

sorry to hear the new ones are not that reliable

 

[Keller]

The first run DX Thunderbirds were great in this role, flat, inexpensive and quite overstable.

Agreed. These were far better than the DX Firebirds

 

[bogeyfreetilinfinity]

the 2018 sextons are the best looking yet.

 

[Stable]

Decent? Depends on what you consider decent.

I bought one last fall, it flew like a Valkyrie with no glide!
DX Banshees are better.

Hopefully, newer runs in DX will be better. Not holding my breath thoughopcorn:

Glidelss Valkyrie? Dead straight........to the ground? Actually sounds useful in spots.

 

[pjhayes7]

the 2018 sextons are the best looking yet.

Well, the ones they used for pictures are indeed killer. The stamp also looks awesome, but that is a lot of foil on the disc. Hopefully they don't have problems with stamp dropout.

 

[Keller]

Glidelss Valkyrie? Dead straight........to the ground? Actually sounds useful in spots.

Yeah, but I have other discs to cover that shot, like a beat Banshee!

 

[jskew113]

Pics of the new stamp? Link?

 

[pjhayes7]

Pics of the new stamp? Link?

https://proshop.innovadiscs.com/glow-champion-firebird-nate-sexton.html