Spectacledbear
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Got my teebirds out too 105 meters today,almost a soccer field. Combining tips from this forum and including the nate sexton hop really got my FH too a new level :thmbup:
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I've recently started throwing a lot of forehands and am having a lot of pain right above the elbow. Does anyone know what this issue could be from? Thank you
Definitely similar loop at the top of my FH backswing and agree with inside out swing path.I think this is some fundamental kinetics of the FH swing that I've been missing. I came across this video on the Universal swing path (outward/inward) in regards to tennis. In my FH I had been bringing the disc backwards on the plane without the circling. Is what he is explaining correct for the FH? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeElHXkCG7g&feature=youtu.be&t=104
Same kind of loop motion with throwing baseball and football too.^^^
Thanks SW. I remember seeing that in your video but kind of put it on the back burner to incorporate later because at some point there was discussion about the nuances of the pros and how they did this.
BH is also similar with inside-out or narrow-wide from your center and loop transition even when you keep the disc still.
Yeah, karate chop and palm up would only make sense if your finger pads on the flight plate instead of the inside rim, but seriously restricts your release/followthru trying to keep palm up, it actually locks up the elbow.
Eagle going from supinated/external shoulder rotation to pronation/internal rotation - leading to hand turning over almost 180 degrees in 4 frames and snapping the disc thru the release. The arm/hand turning over allows the elbow to rehinge in followthru.
My sidearm is terrible. Maybe 200' if I'm lucky. I just copied PMB's arm motion as a starting point. Turns out Stokely calls that the windmill. I will try the pendulum just to see the difference.
A bit less visible than his arm motion, but Paul McBeth also grips his sidearm throws differently than most players.
Most players extend their index and middle fingers straight out together to form the classic "gun-hand" sidearm shape, with the side of your middle fingertip pressed against the inner rim of the disc. This is the classic ultimate frisbee flick grip and requires palm to be face-up through the throw, kinda like you're karate chopping the target. If you turn your hand over too early you will get off-axis torque that wobbles the disc and turns it into the ground. If you turn your hand over too late in the follow through (or not at all), you will stress your elbow on high power throws.
Paul McBeth curls his index finger in and puts his index fingertip against the inner rim of the disc closer to the meat of his hand, and keeps the middle finger extended out to a further point on the inner rim of the disc. This puts the hand in a much more natural palm-forward orientation and allows you to follow through much more naturally as if you're throwing a ball.
Just thought I'd point that out since it took me a while to recognize that PMB had a different grip. When I was throwing with the "gun-hand" grip, I absolute maxed at about 250ft for forehands, had elbow pain, and struggled to find the sweet spot between sky-hyzering and OAT burning the disc into the ground. After a few weeks of practice with the PMB grip, I increased my distance to 300ft, am pain free, and have better angle control. I'm sure there are still several things wrong with my throw technique (I've grown past 300ft but am still far from pro distance), but that grip switch was the largest and quickest improvement I've had with my forehand.
Correct, like an OK sign....I think you're saying PMB uses the sidearm power grip, kinda like an OK sign...
...It's adding the distance that feels so awkward... Adding more arm or walk up doesn't help.