Unless this changes:
"Absolutely no walk-ons. Contact owner for permission to play and directions."
it should not be a true 5. I think a course regularly accessible to the public with normal hours, whether pay for play or not, should be worth a quarter to half a disc, at least on the overall scale used here. As usual, the design and amenities get jammed together so you don't know if a 4.5 star course like FlyBoy (IMO) has a 5-star design and 4-star amenities or vice versa.
There are other things that keep this from a 5 level course even using the relativistic versus absolute scale we use here. No dual tees. The rubber is okay but concrete would make it feel like the design had been perfected and was more permanent.
It feels a little unsettling shooting around all of the private property of other residents there. And, this is personal preference not specifically related to these ratings, but I like courses that can be well groomed but in a more wild environment without homes or commercial areas in view. About half the course has that wild look and is awesome. I'm not sure there was a portolet at the far reaches of the course which could make it a little tougher with all the neighbors around.
No other course requires you to move away from your lie due to occasional air traffic. Interesting diversion for rec play but not necessarily for tournament play. Tom Monroe and I had several design suggestions from our September visit which could improve the layout (some may already have been done since then).
I can understand why so many 5s have been awarded because it feels like that when you're there and playing. It's only on reflection afterwards that some of these elements need to be considered where maybe it doesn't get all the way there, at least yet.
OK boys, I'm holding my watch pretty high over my head right now because the bull**** is getting rather deep in here. I just noticed your post here Chuck. I prefer radio silence, but I just can't let this one go.
Are you really going to dock a course half a disc because permission is required to come out and enjoy it? Did you have trouble getting permission to come out and spend two days at Flyboy? Did that affect your experience of the place? I have a contract with my (incredibly awesome) neighbors that I will not allow just anyone to pop out unannounced
and access our little slice of heaven at the airstrip. That's why you'll never have to wait on a tee pad, rarely see a scrap of litter, or hear obscenities echoing across the landscape at Flyboy. I want to talk to the golfers a bit before they come out here and enjoy our property, at least the first time they come. To me, that's worth an EXTRA half a disc. The place is a little more exclusive than your local public course, and I like it that way.
Long as I'm here, let me address the rest of your post in no particular order.
"No dual tees"…………. There's dual tees marked now. Thanks for the suggestion.
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"The rubber pads are OK, but concrete…….." There will never be concrete tees here. I don't like concrete tees, and that's MY personal preference. There WILL ultimately be permanent rubber, or maybe Astroturf tees in a professional, finished looking installation, like a lot of the new courses are installing, but I'm not finished tweaking the course yet.
The air traffic: Ok, chuck, you got me on that one. Occasionally, we do have to clear the runway for a few minutes when folks out here are flying. Dock me .5 for that inconvenience. Give me an extra .5 for the incredible novelty of it.
Did you really feel "unsettled" by the proximity to neighbors during your time here? Did we even see any neighbors? Most golfers don't even notice. This is a gigantic property, remember? There is some shooting around MY hangar/house and one other neighbor's hangar on 19 – 27, but on the first 18 holes? Not an issue.
Finally, you mention some confusion about knowing 4/5 star amenities ratings with our relativistic scale, huh? You're a little vague about the amenities here so let me just clarify for Flyboy's sake. That on site Bed and Breakfast you stayed in while you were here with Tom Monroe….I built that for the disc golfers. That's an amenity, along with all the meals you ate while you visited us, the pro-shop, clubhouse, etc., etc. all amenities. Let's not leave these folks in the dark here. The amenities at Flyboy Aviation are 5 star.
Look Chuck, you are one of the few trusted people on this forum who's actually experienced Flyboy. Everyone else here who's played it has reviewed it. You've made several posts about the course, mostly negative, but you comment that it's a 4.5 with 5 potential. So why don't you do these folks a solid, give it your 4.5, and write a detailed review of Flyboy so they're not shooting in the dark with these speculative forum posts. I'll just keep that half a disc you're docking me for permission to play in my hip pocket, and by the way, you have permission to come play Flyboy anytime you like.
Kelly
). But give me a Leviathan, or Lemon Lake Gold, or whatever instead of whimpy courses I can shoot under on. I'm not interested in shooting well. I'm interested in shooting "epic." :thmbup: 
