I'm looking for a distance driver I can hyzer flip out of the box, I like pro destroyers but they beat in too quick. Unsure what else to try but I want premium plastic. I like somewhat deeper rims so I ruled ot the tern, it flew perfect but I hated the grip. Thinking lucid trespass? Unsure what else, mabye an escape? It's a bit slower or the renegade? What are you 450ft+ throwing for hyzer flips when it comes to a fresh disc? I'm a huge fan of my beefy star destroyers but they take too long to beat in.