Knocking another players disc away from the basket...

[The Mickstar]

Situation: Basket placed on edge of steep hill. Player 1's drive settles in Circle 1. Player 2 throws a spike hyzer that hits Player 1's disc, resulting in Player 1's disc rolling ~90 feet down the hill.

Does Player 1 play from his new lie ~90 feet down the hill?

 

[biscoe]

No- put it back where it was.

 

[TheOtherBill]

IIRC correctly the rule only asks that the group decides where the disc was originally at rest. If no one saw it on the ground after it landed, you're kinda s.o.l.

 

[biscoe]

IIRC correctly the rule only asks that the group decides where the disc was originally at rest. If no one saw it on the ground after it landed, you're kinda s.o.l.

Nah... if the group can agree that the other disc moved it then why would they not be able to agree on a lie?

 

[TheOtherBill]

The sticking point is "If no one saw it on the ground after it landed", which would essentially negate the question now that I think about it. How would you estimate a lie that no one actually saw. It's kind of like an ace isn't an ace if no one saw it get wedged and fall out before the group got there.

 

[TheOtherBill]

810 InterferenceA. If a thrown disc has moved after having come to rest on the in-bounds playing surface, it is replaced to where it first came to rest, as agreed on by the group. A thrown disc that has come to rest elsewhere does not need to be replaced, and its position is based on where it first came to rest, as agreed on by the group

 

[The Mickstar]

810 InterferenceA... A thrown disc that has come to rest elsewhere does not need to be replaced, and its position is based on where it first came to rest, as agreed on by the group

It sounds like "elsewhere" is somewhere not on the in-bounds playing surface. So is this rule saying that if you throw out-of-bounds and another disc moves your disc back in-bounds, you play it as though you're still OB?

I assume that if it's close and you're not sure it was OB, you proceed as though it was in?

 

[roblee]

1. Yes
2. Card call

 

[glassila]

As long as the card agreed that the disc came to rest, it doesn't matter what caused it to move (a gust of wind, a squirrel, another disc). It goes back to where it was.
If the players did not see the lie, but saw it rollaway 20 seconds later they should be able to approximate where it had been.