i have to say the axis is a great disc .. Iv only been playing for about 2 month's and i had a very hard time keeping my disc from taking off like a rocket heading to space... but i started throwing an axis i bought and for some reason i could thow that disc level and strait... most of the time on the exact line i visualized in my head... i liked it so much i played with it as my every thing but my putter for week or so... then i pulled out my mamba and threw it like i knew what i was doing... Im think..ng about geting a vector can any one tell me what to expect it to do .. my axis fly like its on tracks stait were i point it with little to no fade