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I'm curious, how can the ratings take into account penalty strokes fairly when they can't handle throw and distance?
Do the lack of penalty strokes make them statistically insignificant? Does anyone have any evidence of how many penalty strokes are applied in a given tournament to back that up?
This is coming from an idiot that has often received 2 strokes for adding up his card incorrectly, and has also had par plus 4 on a few holes over the last few years - Dad of small children, am often late to first rounds. In one round a couple of years ago I had 10 extra strokes ( 2 missed holes and then forgot one was a par 4 so had carded a 7 instead of 8 for the par plus 4...the difference of a 980 and an 880 rated round) am I a rare outlier of stupidity or are a lot of players ratings artificially lower than they should be and are other players individual round scores inflated as a result?
As another example a friend at a two day tournament last year got 12 shots extra for missing the last three holes (possibly more as a couple of these are birdiable) of the first round as he had to leave early for a house viewing but still wanted to play the next two rounds of the tournament. Again his round was rated, does it not matter because this is one guy in a field of 80 and so has little to no bearing?
What if one card misplays a hole in a small field surely that would have just as much affect on the ratings as 4 players taking numerous rethrows on one hole - and at least that would be a reflection of the course difficulty rather than player error?
When you can potentially have shots added for misscoring, misplaying, courtesy, footfaults, 888 ratings artificially depressing players rating etc. etc. doesn't this skew the ratings given to other players?
Could penalty strokes be marked separately so they add up to the overall tournament score but then aren't applied to the score for ratings - and players that missed holes/misplayed holes don't get a rating for that round.
Does it even matter?
(Sorry Chuck )
Do the lack of penalty strokes make them statistically insignificant? Does anyone have any evidence of how many penalty strokes are applied in a given tournament to back that up?
This is coming from an idiot that has often received 2 strokes for adding up his card incorrectly, and has also had par plus 4 on a few holes over the last few years - Dad of small children, am often late to first rounds. In one round a couple of years ago I had 10 extra strokes ( 2 missed holes and then forgot one was a par 4 so had carded a 7 instead of 8 for the par plus 4...the difference of a 980 and an 880 rated round) am I a rare outlier of stupidity or are a lot of players ratings artificially lower than they should be and are other players individual round scores inflated as a result?
As another example a friend at a two day tournament last year got 12 shots extra for missing the last three holes (possibly more as a couple of these are birdiable) of the first round as he had to leave early for a house viewing but still wanted to play the next two rounds of the tournament. Again his round was rated, does it not matter because this is one guy in a field of 80 and so has little to no bearing?
What if one card misplays a hole in a small field surely that would have just as much affect on the ratings as 4 players taking numerous rethrows on one hole - and at least that would be a reflection of the course difficulty rather than player error?
When you can potentially have shots added for misscoring, misplaying, courtesy, footfaults, 888 ratings artificially depressing players rating etc. etc. doesn't this skew the ratings given to other players?
Could penalty strokes be marked separately so they add up to the overall tournament score but then aren't applied to the score for ratings - and players that missed holes/misplayed holes don't get a rating for that round.
Does it even matter?
(Sorry Chuck )