BuzzSharpe
Par Member
Re 8, 12 and 13, et al.
8, 8, 8, the hole people love to hate. Jason, we have permission and directive to clear that hillside as we see fit. I left those saplings when I worked that area probably because I was probably just tired when I got to that area. Thinking ahead, it would probably be best to take them down, along with all other saplings, as we get rid of the brier and bramble bushes. I do remember one little Cedar at the base of the hill maybe about halfway down that might be cool to leave, for the year round green color, if nothing else.
I just never imagined a problem with 12, with the fence and steep hill acting as barriers and the Mando light pole at the turn acting as directive.
I do remember wishing that the fence extended all the way down the fields when I first walked that land that is now #13, but really thought and still think that with the width of the fairway, the up slope and the distance between course OB and soccer pitch OB that it wouldn't be the danger that it is being perceived to be. My one real unconsidered shortsightedness there are the spectators. Warning signs for that area are planned and when necessary a "heads up!' shout out should alleviate much of the worry.
Though not designed with the distance and difficulty of The SPC, I have seen and played so many other courses with closer proximity to other activity areas, I did not foresee and still don't see it. As the course description declares, strict OB's and Mando's make placement and precision as important as pure power. Holes like 13 and 18 require long thought along with long throws. 13 can be eagled with a three, as I saw it happen the day we did our walk-through demonstration for the P&R people. I have to agree with Jason that 18 is definitely a 5, as is 13. As for the thought of combining 16 and 17...Primary and tertiary designers saw that area as another loooong par 5, but the sense that secondary designer made won out, with proximity to the street and the relative safety issue being the deciding factor. You see, we really did consider such things, even on the holes most in question. It's why I shortened #4 by 200', losing one of our original unquestionably par 4's.
BC, I REALLY appreciate that you appreciate the course, overall. I hope that you and others can appreciate that holes like 3 and 13 were purposely laid out to tempt difficult distance throwing, tempered with detailed decision making. That's why they're 5's and not 4's and why #8 is a 6, rather than the originally designated 5. And at the other end of the spectrum, for which I've read and heard similar labels of silliness, that is why 5 and 17 are 2's, rather than their original designations of 3.
Perhaps and probably too pompous and ego-maniacal, I really do hope that over the course of time and with the installation of planned cautionary and other signage and paint lines, The SPC will be seen as a real life instance of The Fountainhead, as reviewer paulymonnc sees it.
8, 8, 8, the hole people love to hate. Jason, we have permission and directive to clear that hillside as we see fit. I left those saplings when I worked that area probably because I was probably just tired when I got to that area. Thinking ahead, it would probably be best to take them down, along with all other saplings, as we get rid of the brier and bramble bushes. I do remember one little Cedar at the base of the hill maybe about halfway down that might be cool to leave, for the year round green color, if nothing else.
I just never imagined a problem with 12, with the fence and steep hill acting as barriers and the Mando light pole at the turn acting as directive.
I do remember wishing that the fence extended all the way down the fields when I first walked that land that is now #13, but really thought and still think that with the width of the fairway, the up slope and the distance between course OB and soccer pitch OB that it wouldn't be the danger that it is being perceived to be. My one real unconsidered shortsightedness there are the spectators. Warning signs for that area are planned and when necessary a "heads up!' shout out should alleviate much of the worry.
Though not designed with the distance and difficulty of The SPC, I have seen and played so many other courses with closer proximity to other activity areas, I did not foresee and still don't see it. As the course description declares, strict OB's and Mando's make placement and precision as important as pure power. Holes like 13 and 18 require long thought along with long throws. 13 can be eagled with a three, as I saw it happen the day we did our walk-through demonstration for the P&R people. I have to agree with Jason that 18 is definitely a 5, as is 13. As for the thought of combining 16 and 17...Primary and tertiary designers saw that area as another loooong par 5, but the sense that secondary designer made won out, with proximity to the street and the relative safety issue being the deciding factor. You see, we really did consider such things, even on the holes most in question. It's why I shortened #4 by 200', losing one of our original unquestionably par 4's.
BC, I REALLY appreciate that you appreciate the course, overall. I hope that you and others can appreciate that holes like 3 and 13 were purposely laid out to tempt difficult distance throwing, tempered with detailed decision making. That's why they're 5's and not 4's and why #8 is a 6, rather than the originally designated 5. And at the other end of the spectrum, for which I've read and heard similar labels of silliness, that is why 5 and 17 are 2's, rather than their original designations of 3.
Perhaps and probably too pompous and ego-maniacal, I really do hope that over the course of time and with the installation of planned cautionary and other signage and paint lines, The SPC will be seen as a real life instance of The Fountainhead, as reviewer paulymonnc sees it.
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