I don't have a ton of knowledge about the variations of Valks, but I picked up a 4x JK Champ Valkyrie in a used bin today. Is this CE plastic time period, or regular champ plastic? Feels great, and is super flat. Haven't had a chance to throw it yet unfortunately.
4x JK Valks occured right when CE ended. Definitely CE like, and comparable in durability to the "Jolly Launcher" plastic that came out somewhat recently. Very tasty plastic, at one point I owned about 20 of them. So no, not true CE but yes absolutely coveted by long time players. Picture?
Thanks for the info. It's been thrown, but sure feels good in the hand. Can't wait to give it a try.
... Also bad color choice for me, I had a really hard time finding the disc even when it was blue. green grass made disc hard to see...
So whats a good color for you?
Yes Casey his disc says Champion on it. I'm talking about the plastic itself.
The plastic its self then is the same as what I had for my 2005 5x disc, the closest in modern champion is the Glow or leaving discs in a car for an hour to make them gummy.
Is there any difference in the 4X that are stamped "JK Pro" and the 4X that have the more common Champ stamp? I had a bunch of the later Champ stamp 4X and they were flat with the record (or zipper) top and made from pearly champ plastic, which are the same characteristics I hear about the JK Pros. I've never seen a JK Pro, though.4x JK Valks occured right when CE ended. Definitely CE like, and comparable in durability to the "Jolly Launcher" plastic that came out somewhat recently. Very tasty plastic, at one point I owned about 20 of them. So no, not true CE but yes absolutely coveted by long time players. Picture?
Finally had a chance to throw the 4x JK and it was a hyzer flip machine. Absolutely loved it.
Is there any difference in the 4X that are stamped "JK Pro" and the 4X that have the more common Champ stamp? I had a bunch of the later Champ stamp 4X and they were flat with the record (or zipper) top and made from pearly champ plastic, which are the same characteristics I hear about the JK Pros. I've never seen a JK Pro, though.
Oddly, the best feeling Valk of that bunch was stamped 5X. I still have it, it was light for Champ (scaled at 161g.) It's flat with the record top and the plastic is a lovely gummy Champ. It's the best Valk I've ever thrown; it was money in its day. I've always thought it was probably an old stock blank that got stamped later, because it's clearly a 4X Valk. I wonder how often that happens? Probably more often than we want to know.
Is there any difference in the 4X that are stamped "JK Pro" and the 4X that have the more common Champ stamp? I had a bunch of the later Champ stamp 4X and they were flat with the record (or zipper) top and made from pearly champ plastic, which are the same characteristics I hear about the JK Pros. I've never seen a JK Pro, though.
Oddly, the best feeling Valk of that bunch was stamped 5X. I still have it, it was light for Champ (scaled at 161g.) It's flat with the record top and the plastic is a lovely gummy Champ. It's the best Valk I've ever thrown; it was money in its day. I've always thought it was probably an old stock blank that got stamped later, because it's clearly a 4X Valk. I wonder how often that happens? Probably more often than we want to know.
The last pro I saw mention having the Valkyrie in their bag was Jessica Weese. Can't recall a pro mens player mention it. Just a thought. Odd for an all time great driver mold to not be in more Innova sponsored bags.
As great of a disc as the valkyrie is, it doesn't really fit into the current pro game very well. Reliable distance aka 450 foot hyzers is what wins now. A valkyrie might get a little more distance than say a thunderbird, but the consistency of a thunderbird on something in the 375-425 range is what most pros will grab for.