Wondering which driver to get?

[The Bard]

I'm looking for something in-between at Valkyrie and a Sidewinder for max d. I throw about 300-325 w/a Star 167 Sidewinder.

The Star 174 Valkyrie I've thrown seemed to fly a little too overstable. The Sidewinder is just a little too understable.

Doesn't have to be Innova, just using those as a reference. I'd prefer to stay away from DX-like plastic if possible so I can keep relying on the disc for awhile. Suggestions??

Thanks!

 

[vonDrehle]

I would say either try a 175 Sidewinder or a 165-168 Valkyrie. Especially if you like the way those molds are feeling in your hands.

Also you could stick with that Valkyrie a little longer and it might beat into something really nice for you if it is only flying slightly overstable at the moment.

 

[shoe59]

I've thrown a couple Star Valks that were pretty overstable when they were new. Beat it up by whatever means necessary and then see what it does for you.

 

[Oregon_Nole]

2nd for a lighter Valk.

I love understable discs, in my bag right now I've got 3 valks (167g, 175g, unknown, but it feels light and is really flippy), 2 sidewinders (172g, and either 150g or 156g) , and a 165 wraith that's ridiculously flippy. All are champ because there's a lot of lava rock around here. Newness and weight seem to be the biggest determinant in stability.

The most stable of those listed would be the new-ish sidewinder. I've only been throwing it for a month, so I haven't gotten to beat it in. It's 172 grams, pearly pink, and acts much more like a viking than a sidewinder or even a valk.

I've got a 167 valk that I've been throwing for 6 months or so, and it is sweet. The only time I can't throw it is into a stiff headwind. I BH and FH it, and so long as I don't roll my wrist or torque the hell out of it, it holds a line for 350' with relative ease.

I found the Z Wildcat to fly very similar to the valk. It has a lower profile, so it feels a little different in the hand, but its a sweet disc. I really wish they didn't stop producing it.

 

[ThomasOrion]

if thats what you want, I'd say go BEAST

 

[The Bard]

I was actually just about to ask about the Beast and then saw the reply! Haha. I had a Pro Beast (can't remember the weight) and it seemed to do well. I only had it a couple of days using because I lost it soon after. So I'm not really sure how well it was consistently. Any thoughts from others on the Beast?

 

[Plankeye]

If you don't want to change the weight of the sidewinder or valk, then i say go with a beast. I would try to stay away from the pro beast because a few hits and the beast will become too flippy. Get a star beast in the low 170s

 

[RickBrierly]

Champion Beast!

 

[vonDrehle]

I don't know I think if the Valk is overstable for you the Beast would act even more overstable for you.

 

[creeper78]

A heavier champ sidewinder might work. Sidewinders are awesome. Valks are great too though. I'd say somewhere in the range noted below in possibly Pro plastic for a little less stability. The stars are great when they break in, but if you don't have a really rough course then the Pro would beat in quicker and still hold up a while. I think the Pros have a good feel to them also.

I would say either try a 175 Sidewinder or a 165-168 Valkyrie. Especially if you like the way those molds are feeling in your hands.

Also you could stick with that Valkyrie a little longer and it might beat into something really nice for you if it is only flying slightly overstable at the moment.

 

[JTacoma03]

Mark my vote for the "beat up the heavy Star Valkyrie" group.

 

[Craton]

170 Pro Valk or 165 Pro Beast