2023 PDGA Majors Awarded

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https://www.pdga.com/news/2023-pdga-majors-awarded

Pro Worlds - Smugglers Notch VT (one bid)
Am Worlds - Peoria IL (two)
Masters Worlds - Flagstaff AZ (one)
Junior Worlds - Peoria IL (three)
USWDGC - Burlington NC (five)
Selinske Masters - Eugene OR (two)
Champions Cup - Toboggan course, Milford MI (one)

 

[nothinbuttree]

One bid for worlds?!

Apparently someone missed the "grow the sport" memo...

 

[araytx]

One bid for worlds?!

Apparently someone missed the "grow the sport" memo...

Either that or people decided after hearing all the "griping" about how things were handled in Utah this past year they they'd rather not ...

Ya think???

 

[ejvogie]

Either that or people decided after hearing all the "griping" about how things were handled in Utah this past year they they'd rather not ...

Ya think???

From a TD friend;

Breakdown of drama at sanctioned events:

MPO - 90%
Women's divisions - 9%
Everyone else - 1%

 

[Pymm]

Super excited that the USWDGC is coming to Burlington. Half an hour from me and at a place that I play a lot. It's going to be great!

 

[Jah Plastifari]

I've been waiting a few years for a Masters Worlds west of the Mississippi. Thank you Flagstaff area disc golfers for the bid, looking forward to the event.

 

[ru4por]

Terrific. Another Heinold event, that local clubs now have to schedule all of our event around. And another week that Toboggan is not available for casual play.


Three majors were awarded to the President of the PDGA's Board of Directors?

 

[nothinbuttree]

Terrific. Another Heinold event, that local clubs now have to schedule all of our event around. And another week that Toboggan is not available for casual play.


Three majors were awarded to the President of the PDGA's Board of Directors?

That was the other half of my intended thought above. Could it be the requirements are so high and involved that all possible contenders just say pass? If the powers that be want the sport to grow, top events need to be held at more than a very small minority of potential venues...

 

[flatflip]

Terrific. Another Heinold event, that local clubs now have to schedule all of our event around. And another week that Toboggan is not available for casual play.


Three majors were awarded to the President of the PDGA's Board of Directors?

Didn't think Toboggan was usually set up before Memorial Day. Champions Cup scheduled for April this year; assuming timing holds, you may get more Toboggan out of the deal.

Sorry heinold stole your gal or whatever.

 

[DavidSauls]

That was the other half of my intended thought above. Could it be the requirements are so high and involved that all possible contenders just say pass? If the powers that be want the sport to grow, top events need to be held at more than a very small minority of potential venues...

I don't know....if you look at the venues over a 5 or 10 year period, there seems to be a decent number of locations used. But few of them are willing to do it year after year. Perhaps some of those who might have bid in 2023, either ran majors in recent years or anticipate bidding in subsequent years.

 

[biscoe]

From a TD friend;

Breakdown of drama at sanctioned events:

MPO - 90%
Women's divisions - 9%
Everyone else - 1%

I find these numbers highly inaccurate based on my experience.

 

[biscoe]

Terrific. Another Heinold event, that local clubs now have to schedule all of our event around. And another week that Toboggan is not available for casual play.


Three majors were awarded to the President of the PDGA's Board of Directors?

You should (and probably are) be complaining to your local powers that be. Is your club not a partner with Heinold in these endeavors?

 

[happylender2]

Don't have the time this morning to check, but does he work with local partners??

 

[dndelli]

Either that or people decided after hearing all the "griping" about how things were handled in Utah this past year they they'd rather not ...

Ya think???

I know there is a lot of talk around NC that hosting Pro Worlds just isn't really worth it. That Am Worlds does more for the local scene. Maybe that is because NC is already fairly established, but with the lack of help given to the hosting club given by the PDGA, even in an area full of volunteers, it is more of a headache and none of the TD's qualified to really host a major in the area seem to have any interest in it.

 

[ru4por]

You should (and probably are) be complaining to your local powers that be. Is your club not a partner with Heinold in these endeavors?

No. Certainly more than a fair question though. The politics of that are a bit complicated. I am not interested in airing those grievances here.

Honestly, we have extensively discussed involvement in majors and DGPT events and don't feel that our energy and resources are best applied, to such a select group of players. Our mission has always been very focused on the AM side of the game. Growing the area from beginner up. I am not trying to derail the thread with this though.

It is safe to say that Michigan tournament calendars are a challenge each season. Adding another major is going to make it more difficult. Our longstanding and only A Tier of the season, has always been in April, in addition to our non-sanctioned One Disc Challenge, club membership drive event. Our A Tier event is always popular, especially in giving AM players a chance to get an early jump on points. It would be a larger concern, if a large A Tier event is run, in conjunction with the major.

There are likely positives that we will focus on though. Pro players in town can offer a host of club opportunities for lessons, player signing events... I am hoping we can work on being a vehicle, for giving local AMs more chances to meet and play with the pro players. Maybe working this, in conjunction with our membership drive can prove to be a win-win. Hopefully, a PDGA major will infuse the area with opportunity for infrastructure upgrades and improvements for our local players. Obviously, the PDGA impact is likely to be more along the lines of USDGA, than a Worlds....just by scope alone.

Shrug...regardless, COVID has sure taught us to be flexible, as a club. We will have no say in how the calendar works out and will focus on how the addition of a major, can have a positive impact on our local scene. I guess it is not much different than having a World's in the area. It feels a lot more like a DGPT event though, given an outside TD coming in to run the event.

 

[BillFleming]

Maybe it is Covid stopping other courses from making a bid? Courses are being closed, or have limited participation due to Covid issues. Who knows if a city/county/state/owner will allow a tournament in 2023? Even Flagstaff has had tournament courses dropped/changed at the last minute due to Covid issues. Imagine if you will.....a month before a big tournament, the TD is told the course has to be limited to 100 people total due to the latest Covid outbreak.....or closed completely. How do you reschedule a major that quickly to another location? And what if you are counting on 3 courses for the number of players and two get shutdown?

 

[nothinbuttree]

Maybe it is Covid stopping other courses from making a bid? Courses are being closed, or have limited participation due to Covid issues. Who knows if a city/county/state/owner will allow a tournament in 2023? Even Flagstaff has had tournament courses dropped/changed at the last minute due to Covid issues. Imagine if you will.....a month before a big tournament, the TD is told the course has to be limited to 100 people total due to the latest Covid outbreak.....or closed completely. How do you reschedule a major that quickly to another location? And what if you are counting on 3 courses for the number of players and two get shutdown?

Good points, but IIRC, Utah Worlds only had one other bid as well, those bids were well before COVID. COVID surely has not helped anything though.

 

[biscoe]

It has been hard to get takers for Worlds for years. When we bid on USWDGC it was partially out of thinking it would be an "easier" event to start with- it has been the one with the most bids over recent history as well so maybe others think the same way (not easier- more demanding if anything due to the wide variety of skill levels in play).

The way this stuff is trending all the MPO/FPO Elite stuff will be run by a few professional TD's before long. Hard to say whether that is a good or bad thing.

 

[BillFleming]

Good points, but IIRC, Utah Worlds only had one other bid as well, those bids were well before COVID. COVID surely has not helped anything though.

The PDGA only shows how many bids there were at the time of the decision. There could have been other bids that were pulled for one reason or another. For example, the a tournament could have had 3 bids initially and then 2 were pulled prior to the decision....so that leaves only one bid.

 

[ThrowBot]

What about USDGC?