Triflusal
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I'd throw all MVP if they have me 1/10th what he makes.
where do I send your 6 bucks?
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I'd throw all MVP if they have me 1/10th what he makes.
Every time I see this thread I think it says "MRV Vector Midrange" and I get confused and wonder why we have a 30+ page thread on a discontinued Pro D MRV.
I guess Discraft only had room for the Buzzz, because the MRV went OOP the year after the Buzzz came out. It's too bad; the MRV was a really good small-diameter mid.I like the MRV... It's on histories underrated list without a doubt.
My thoughts on the Vector are as follows:
Meh...
I brought one of my Vectors along with me to Blue Ribbon Pines today to play with some friends. Unfortunately, there weren't many holes suited to use it off the tee. However, that didn't stop me from just using it anyways.
It seems to hold the same line all the way through its flight instead of fading hard when it slows down. Reminds me kind of like an extremely stable version of an Fuse. Faster, not as glidey, but the same idea of holding a line with out a pronounced fade. It doesn't really fly like a Buzzz or Wasp at all. A Buzzz or Wasp will fly straight with the fade hooking in at the end.
It definitely has a learning curve that I am going to try to learn over the next few weeks.
I had mine out at Blue Ribbon Pines as well yesterday for the Mulligan Stew. I have a green and an orange Vector, both 177g. They were definitely not overstable, but had a stronger fade than my Buzzzes.
I really don't need this disc, and yet I will probably buy one. Oh well, I guess it will be easy trade bait if I don't like it.
In the last 10 years I've been playing I have came to the conclusion again and again that overstable mids are rather pointless. Now, I'm not talking about a disc that can execute flat mid shots in the wind like a new Roc or other flat to fade type disc. I'm referring to Drones, Demons, Gators, etc...Discs that more or less have a + HSS and a blunt edge. I've cycled them in and out of my bag over the years, but never find any use for them that my Banshee/Pred/Firebird/XXX, etc, couldn't do better.
One of the biggest reasons I came to this conclusion was that just about every overstable mid has failed miserably for me in strong wind where the drivers I mentioned above thrive. No matter how overstable a blunt mid is in calm conditions, all of those blunt edges (and large diameter in the case of some) seem to catch wind and make the disc get knocked around. They are more likely to get a quick lift, or slammed to the ground, straighten out, or turnover than a true overstable utility driver. When it is calm, you should be able to throw your stable mid with hyzer to achieve any degree of overstable turn you need.
The only exception I've seen is people with really, really big arms. JohnE McCray has always thrown Demons because he likes to throw really hard even on 300ish holes...but he has 500'+ of power. Even so, as he ages I notice that he is using drivers or stable mids more where he used to throw Demons.
I noticed by reading some of the "rate my bag" threads here that an overstable mid seems to be one of the slots here deemed necessary and I was just wondering what the argument is for this other than it just seems to make sense in theory to carry as many stabilities at each speed as possible.