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Announce end of production, company sells more, later on ,company brings them back due to "demand" = marketing pizazz?
I've never heard the DDx referred to as glideless. That thing bombs like crazy.
Newer run DD2's are crap. When Jolly Launcher blends became the norm in C-line/Champion plastic DD2's went downhill, no idea why but that's what I found. I learned that the DD2 I LOVED was a First Run, so I got a small stack of them...
...and then the DDx came out and it was just a better disc for me.
First Run DD2's though...great frisbees. The G-line DD2 was actually a hog as well.
G-line/G*Star is great. People sleep on it because they think they need stiff plastic, but they use it to hide clunky wrist action on the release.
I had a G-line PD in the bag for awhile, it was basically the ancestor to the Instinct. Not in design particularly, but in flight.
I like the DDX too. It definitely has less glide than a Tern, but still bombs. The DD2 I don't have as much experience with. I have a blizzard and star DD2. They're really fast and long, but pretty flippy. Hard to control.
The DDX is actually a great option for guys wanting a mildly flippier Destroyer.
P3 is the biggest loss here. Such a fire disc. Thing flies like a putter with the distance of a mid.
In my experience, consistency is hard to come by for DD2's. At their best, they are like a good Wraith, but at speed 13. At their worst, they're somebody's "default driver", you know that disc that you used to throw off the tee every single time because you used to think, "well it's a tee shot so I'll throw my driver!"...even though you could play the hole more intelligently and score better with a slower disc that you can control? Yeah it's that one.
This may be due to elevation differences (I'm basically playing at Sea Level in the Bay Area), but I'd go a step further and say it's a Shryke for people that can generate 400'+ of power.
I'm expecting latitude 64 is providing a cheaper product than Innova has for them. They don't want to fully disconnect, but found a cheaper avenue to manufacture there discs.
The P3 was not one of my favorites. DM (originals, to specify) has a bigger problem in that they have not released anything understable since the TD2 (from 2012, people!). Seems like everything comes in more overstable than planned (FD2, TDx), or require a cannon for an arm.
@SD86: ... more OVERstable you mean. ;-)
I much rather use a mid than a midlike putter. Or, better yet, if I can drive a putter to where I want, thats what I'll go with. I think it was the horribly domey glow P3s that ended my interest in them.
Dave D. is now holding Innova back IMHO. I swear only he tests new discs with his geezer friends. Remember the last umpteen mega fast discs that were going to be way overstable, turned out to be roller discs?
The dome is horrible, I agree. But since I flattened it for my P3s, they make great discs. Flat-top D-Line P3s are the best.