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The other day I turned and burned my Lucid-X Chris Clemons Verdict. It ticked me off because that was supposed to be my beefy wind mid. That disc isn't used too often and hasn't suffered a great many tree hits. It has several very hard hits, but not a ton. I started a thread about discs that will never turn, and went back to that to see what mid I could get that will hold up to headwind. At the Dynamic Discs store today they were out of Drones. Out of Justice. I didn't want a Zone, so I grabbed a DX Gator. I had enough credit to get a DX, but not enough for a Champ or Star. I know the DX won't be as stable, but I wanted to try it anyway. Since it was windy YET AGAIN, I went straight down to the nearest course to throw the BT Soft Harp vs the Lucid-x Verdict vs the new DX Gator. I use the Harp all the time on almost every hole. It has slightly fewer tree hits than the Verdict.
Again today, Verdict turns and almost burns completely, with just enough fade to land flat. That's nice, but 50 feet right doesn't help. I could almost get it to roll.
Harp was astonishingly stable, no turn at all into that wind. Really I am kinda shocked. It went straight on a rope, then faded nice at the end - not hard, but it faded... I would never have grabbed that for a 250' shot into the wind, but now I know. I threw it as hard as I could and couldn't get any turn. Wow. BT Soft plastic.
So now let me say that the Verdict is noticeably larger diameter than the Gator. I lined them up on end and the Verdict is larger than the Harp, and the Harp is larger than the Gator.
Gator is comfortable but more domey (Harp and Verdict are flat) than I expected. I could get the slightest brief turn with a hard fade. I threw very hard into the stiff headwind about 10 times. I could get the Harp and the Gator farther than the Verdict today. On a calm day, I am quite sure the Verdict will have longest distance.
So, overall, I underestimated the Harp, overestimated the Verdict, and like the Gator. Gator will temporarily replace the Verdict. But... I'll throw them all more, and if the DX Gator starts turning, the Harp will be grand champion of my overstable mids until I decide to grab a Drone. If I even need one.
Again today, Verdict turns and almost burns completely, with just enough fade to land flat. That's nice, but 50 feet right doesn't help. I could almost get it to roll.
Harp was astonishingly stable, no turn at all into that wind. Really I am kinda shocked. It went straight on a rope, then faded nice at the end - not hard, but it faded... I would never have grabbed that for a 250' shot into the wind, but now I know. I threw it as hard as I could and couldn't get any turn. Wow. BT Soft plastic.
So now let me say that the Verdict is noticeably larger diameter than the Gator. I lined them up on end and the Verdict is larger than the Harp, and the Harp is larger than the Gator.
Gator is comfortable but more domey (Harp and Verdict are flat) than I expected. I could get the slightest brief turn with a hard fade. I threw very hard into the stiff headwind about 10 times. I could get the Harp and the Gator farther than the Verdict today. On a calm day, I am quite sure the Verdict will have longest distance.
So, overall, I underestimated the Harp, overestimated the Verdict, and like the Gator. Gator will temporarily replace the Verdict. But... I'll throw them all more, and if the DX Gator starts turning, the Harp will be grand champion of my overstable mids until I decide to grab a Drone. If I even need one.