It's cute how you seem to think that just because someone can throw a round piece of plastic really good that automatically means they deserve more respect.
Nailed it. Some offense meant to pro's on this statement from me, But Pro's legitimately have no clue most of the time. They are completely out of touch, self centered and absolutely lost. They have no self worth to enforce the rules as it goes during a round, so listening to a pro talk about how "rules are unfair" when the rules are not applied is absolute hogwash.
The one thing that Paul's take screams to me is "this guy obviously has never had to work a normal job or face consequences of violating workplace rules"
This is an educational and parental issue that's driven by poor culture.
Trying to coddle kids more and more has lead to the idea that people don't understand consequences for poor actions, as they are constantly rewarded for winning, loosing, or doing bad things.
Neither have I but was wondering if this were even an option...Pretty sure this isn't something I would be that punitive about. But, seems like maybe this is a conversation that needs to start occurring between TDs/Officials and problematic cards.
If you wanted to be cheeky about it, I'd say it in a way of setting a weird level of expectations. "We have a lot of certified officials on the course. We expect fair play, and we expect you to enforce the rules as listed under blah blah clause. If you are incapable of enforcing the rules per x clause, a certified official on the course at the time may or may not call you on this violation for (whatever the penalty is, which I think is a warning the first time)"
As a certified official and staff on the course when we host our silver/elite series event, I am capable of calling violations. I don't think that pro's understand this.
I would think that this should be something the TD should discuss during the Players' meeting, maybe even take the first few minutes of that meeting...
< lives in a utopia where players actually listen to the TD during the players' meeting.
Oh that utopia. Haha, none of them pay attention. None of them read the signs, none of them look at the caddy book.
You literally have to hold their hand through the course as they don their helmets and equip their crayons.
Pretty clear that Paul thought the circumstances surrounding the call were complete BS. Glad to have him in my corner on this.
it really all about graduating to a decent enforceable set of rules.
You're funny.
Yeah. How would you call that when calling 30 seconds has apparently divided disc golf?
Not enforcing the rules at all over the years has caused the divide in disc golf.
Everyone is so used to breaking the rules at will with no consequences that when somebody does get called, it's obviously because of some other reason than they broke the rules.
Rules are not rules unless they are enforced.
My take - I've watched baseball managers give umpires 10x what Locastro did.
Understood the volunteer vs. professional piece, but the manager gets ejected and is back in the dugout the next night.
Nine months?! He didn't lay a finger on the guy, spit on him, even cuss him out. Nothing.
PDGA are babies if they think that minor tantrum merits such action. They understand some folks get hot when in competition no?
I was kind of waiting for someone to say this. Baseball is the anomaly. Few other sports allow the stageshow, of ump confrontation that baseball does. I mean, hockey allows fighting, that certainly does not translate to fighting being OK in other sports.
If anyone confronts me the way Nikko did, I am interpreting it as a threat. It is a fist fight posture...I don't know how that is interpreted any differently. Then to do it repeatedly?
Perhaps this kind of theatrics, is where some feel the game should head? But, I think if those people really thought that through......
Yeah, taking these last 2 together.
It's expected that managers get in the face of the umpire. They have literally recorded some of these conversations and its them discussing what they were going to have for dinner even though it looked like it was a heated argument.
Golf is a gentlemans sport.
That means to act in accordance of proper etiquette.
Ala, "Dont be a douchebag, play fair, and all calls are in proper form of enforcing the rules, not picking on somebody"
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