Paul McBeth #27523

[Hampstead]

Even a blind clock finds squirrel nuts twice a day.

 

[nothinbuttree]

What's the best BBQ for squirrel?

 

[Sheep]

Paul's response is exactly why I quit volunteering in disc golf. I'm not wasting time with these entitled pricks. I suggest everyone do the same and make the pros and TD's pay you for your course work, tournament volunteer activities, and time away from throwing frisbees.

Having worked major events now multiple times.
It's really easy to feel this way. As a staff member and not a volunteer, its even more annoying with a lot of pro players as they will shrug you off when you approach them to talk.
I don't have this staff shirt on to fanboi. Your inability to act as a proper adult when I approach you is not acceptable.

It's not going to stop me from doing it, but to make the point to others here. Not all of them, but a lot of them, are entitled jerks. They are better than everyone else and they will not talk to you unless its to complain about some pathetic bs they have come up with on the course that makes no sense.

Having also watched during rounds, players stand in disgust on nikko violating time over and over again. But their inability to call it as the rules deem they should be shows their inability to cope with reality and their lack of backbone as a whole. As in I'm saying, a majority of players have poor personal character.

If everyone recalls, McBeth had a pretty dumb take on Bradley Williams as well.

So this is right in his wheelhouse.

I read the Mcbeth stuff and was like "wow, he's so out of touch with reality"
Not sure on the Williams stuff, missed that one.

Paul is saying he is OK with what Nikko did. Being OK with screaming at an official's face at a Major, getting close and trying the ghetto "Im going to fight you" act. That is beyond stupid to be OK with that.
Paul's take is so dumb I have a hard time believing its him.

The players are interested in no drama and everyone singing koombiah (howevertfyouspellthat) and whatever all the time.
The defense of Nikko shows a huge lack of intelligence from most people as well. They think its okay to get in other peoples faces and scream. But then, you watch these clips on the internet of people just screaming in other peoples faces for no reason other than they are upset over somebody walking their dog or some crap, and they think its okay to act like that, perfectly normal.

Nikko's actions are akin to being a thug or a gangster.
You step up on somebody like that to force them to back down and make them your B.....
The problem is, Nikko already is the... Because he has no self control or respect for others. He wants to be a thug and do it the thug way. And he completly showed that.
Thinking that his actions didn't hurt anyone. That is how you threaten somebody. You stand in their face and shout them down. That IS a threat.

But people are ignorant now days, they dont understand any of that.

Even a blind clock finds squirrel nuts twice a day.

hehehe.





On another note. I learned absolutely nothing in this thread as to what the brodie/paul beef is.
GG.

 

[davetherocketguy]

Here's a thought...

If I am a TD?Official and I see a rules violation and it's pretty obvious the rest of the card sees the same violation could/should I call a courtesy violation on the entire card based on section 812.B.2? If people on the card are not enforcing the rules they should ALL get a warning. Then tell them I see this happen again where one of them violates any rule and it's obvious they are either not paying attention or just ignoring it then the entire card gets a stroke...Just sorta thinking out loud here.

 

[davetherocketguy]

I donate a bunch of time in my local community, but am looking to reduce that significantly, due to the PDGA's actions in this case.

Which community?

Players are owed a bunch of respect, much more respect than Nikko received in this occasion. Official was clear across the damn fairway. he approached Nikko like he couldn't wait to slap him with the penalty. i will repeat that the PDGA needs to improve their rules so players cannot be targeted like this.

It's cute how you seem to think that just because someone can throw a round piece of plastic really good that automatically means they deserve more respect.

 

[Future_Primitive]

Nikko bringing out all the dog whistlers.

 

[VictorB]

The one thing that Paul's take screams to me is "this guy obviously has never had to work a normal job or face consequences of violating workplace rules"

 

[biscoe]

Here's a thought...

If I am a TD?Official and I see a rules violation and it's pretty obvious the rest of the card sees the same violation could/should I call a courtesy violation on the entire card based on section 812.B.2? If people on the card are not enforcing the rules they should ALL get a warning. Then tell them I see this happen again where one of them violates any rule and it's obvious they are either not paying attention or just ignoring it then the entire card gets a stroke...Just sorta thinking out loud here.

801.02.B would be the rule to warn them under- "Players are expected to call a violation when one has clearly occurred". I have never heard of this occurring in any event at any level however.

 

[davetherocketguy]

801.02.B would be the rule to warn them under- "Players are expected to call a violation when one has clearly occurred". I have never heard of this occurring in any event at any level however.

Neither have I but was wondering if this were even an option...Pretty sure this isn't something I would be that punitive about. But, seems like maybe this is a conversation that needs to start occurring between TDs/Officials and problematic cards.

 

[BogeyNoMore]

Neither have I but was wondering if this were even an option...Pretty sure this isn't something I would be that punitive about. But, seems like maybe this is a conversation that needs to start occurring between TDs/Officials and problematic cards.

I would think that this should be something the TD should discuss during the Players' meeting, maybe even take the first few minutes of that meeting...

Hey, can I have your attention please?

Just want to remind everyone that per PDGA rules, players are expected to call a violation when one has clearly occurred.

That means paying attention to what your cardmates are doing, and calling them for obvious rules violations.

We all have to do our part to uphold the integrity of our sport.

< lives in a utopia where players actually listen to the TD during the players' meeting.

 

[BeRReGoN]

I think the DGPT should be renamed DGKT, Disc Golf Kindergarten Tour.

 

[hanger129]

Say Paul dominated dg all through the 90s, he wouldn't be a millionaire because there was basically no money in the sport at that time. He dominated during the time dg was blowing up, so he got paid.

I mean Ricky was coming up during this time too. Sure, he doesn't have the 5x next to his name but he is still a dominant force and yet hasn't reaped the same financial success that Paul has. I think Paul has worked on a lot of things besides throwing frisbees really well to be in that position.

 

[DanJon]

You must be fun at parties. Oh wait, you're not.

The blind squirrel knows enough to keep walking and not get involved.

That squirrel just got hit by a car.

 

[ChrisWoj]

I mean Ricky was coming up during this time too. Sure, he doesn't have the 5x next to his name but he is still a dominant force and yet hasn't reaped the same financial success that Paul has. I think Paul has worked on a lot of things besides throwing frisbees really well to be in that position.

5X Champ - got 10 years, $1M per year
2X Champ - got 4 years, $1M per year

I mean, at least in terms of the amount of security - it seems pretty proportional to the World Titles.

 

[ballgolfconvert]

Paul is saying he is OK with what Nikko did. Being OK with screaming at an official's face at a Major, getting close and trying the ghetto "Im going to fight you" act. That is beyond stupid to be OK with that.

Does Paul want that in every tournament? Should Paul do that every time he gets a time or rule violation? Is this the new, modern disc golf we get to look forward to if Paul were PDGA Overlord?

Paul's take is so dumb I have a hard time believing its him.

Pretty clear that Paul thought the circumstances surrounding the call were complete BS. Glad to have him in my corner on this.

it really all about graduating to a decent enforceable set of rules.

 

[Hampstead]

 

[ru4por]

Pretty clear that Paul thought the circumstances surrounding the call were complete BS. Glad to have him in my corner on this.

it really all about graduating to a decent enforceable set of rules.

You have no corner, you are making up a take on Paul's post, you are a simple contrarian, for the sake of sating your need for attention.

The rule is simple and enforceable.

 

[Countchunkula]

The one thing that Paul's take screams to me is "this guy obviously has never had to work a normal job or face consequences of violating workplace rules"

Great point. A few years back, the company I work for fired our only experienced sales manager for blowing up on the director. It got pretty heated, but we're talking a strictly verbal confrontation. He had been with the company 10+ years and everyone else in the sales team had been there less than a year. It absolutely hurt the company to lose that knowledge, but management had no choice.

Not too many jobs where you can pull the sh!t Nikko did and still be employed.

 

[foxdawg10]

That squirrel just got hit by a car.

Okay

 

[dmoore1998]

I mean Ricky was coming up during this time too. Sure, he doesn't have the 5x next to his name but he is still a dominant force and yet hasn't reaped the same financial success that Paul has. I think Paul has worked on a lot of things besides throwing frisbees really well to be in that position.

What financial success has Paul reaped that Ricky hasn't?