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Star Mako, Star Sanny, Star Dart, Pro Boss
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seanzerelli
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I'm still pissed about losing my pro boss a few months ago. Gooooooooooooood.
burt21
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I will be getting a large handful of the pro bosses immidiately which might replace my 3 star destroyers in different stages of wear. I saw a guy with 2 pro bosses a few months ago that threw them 600 feet, he said it was almost unfair how far the pro bosses fly. He wouldn't risk losing them so he has been throwing the champ bosses when playing. I can't wait to get some, I will be at the USDGC this weekend, is innova really waiting until the week after it to release these new discs or will they be there?
IllustratorVir
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To those of you who have thrown a pro boss, would someone like me benefit from them? I usually drive with a valk and put it out around 400 or so on a hyzer flip. I don't want to toss money on a disc that is too much disc for me.
seanzerelli
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You'll have to throw it harder to keep it within it's cruise speed. The pro boss I got had a massive dome, but I think pro plastic just beats in to a workable distance disc faster. Rub any other boss on a concrete tee pad and see if it doesn't fly fantastic. Everyone I know that throws a boss, throws their flippiest one as their money distance disc. If you can throw as far as the pros then you could probably do better with a more stable boss.
In the end, If you hyzerflip a newish boss into an S curve, it should go over 450.
In the end, If you hyzerflip a newish boss into an S curve, it should go over 450.
VictorB
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Sounds like an answer to the Comet perhaps? If it is, I'll try it just to compare them.
IllustratorVir
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I really enjoyed throwing the comet, I will check the Mako out just to see how it flies but I don't see it replacing the Rocs.victorb said:
JR
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The numbers do not tell the length of the disc. Or the power requirement. Comet is atypical in those respects. So is a Kite and to a lesser extent a Skeeter which is about as fussy as a Comet. Kite in Star is a bit more forgiving but still only slightly.
keltik1
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Well i got to fondle a Star Mako at the Pro Shop at the USDGC and it looks like a domier coyote. Kind of a letdown. I think i get one as the spectator freebie. I'll post more later unless someone beats me to it.
adamschneider
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Yeah, I know what the numbers say, but what's the real-world difference going to be between 0/0 and -1/1? Even a disc with "0 turn" and "0 fade" will flip if thrown too hard and fade if thrown too soft.Spike said:
VictorB
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well, I suppose I'm hoping for it to be as good as the comet, because how innova described it is very close to how I describe the comet to people who haven't thrown one or even heard of one.
still, if it is a comet clone I'm not a huge innova supporter (no allegiances really) so it wouldn't go in the bag anyway.
still, if it is a comet clone I'm not a huge innova supporter (no allegiances really) so it wouldn't go in the bag anyway.
victorb said:
Let me end this here...There's no way in hell that Innova is going to put out a Comet clone...The Comet has BARELY been popular enough to stay on Ds roster over the years (no judgment here Comet lovers). The Mako does not have A). a bead B). a Comet-large diameter C). a very unique Cometesque wing/rim configuration. If anything it is a retooled Shark/Aurora. Its not going to float like a Comet, but it will be more of a power /OAT smoothing/gyroscopic(more weight distributed to the outside) disc. The only thing it will have in common with the Comet is the cruising speed stability.
VictorB
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discspeed said:
forgive me for my ignorance, as I have not actually seen the disc, or any specifications for it yet. I was merely speculating.
victorb said:
You are forgiven sir! :lol: I guess I came across a little more dramatic than intended. :wink: After reading 1000s of Dave D. posts over the years at PDGA.com and asking him dozens myself I have a pretty good idea of what he thinks is "modern" and what kinds of styles he's trying to push the envelope with. Overall he is much more predictable than the other manufacturers (not a bad thing) because he is so willing to openly communicate about his ideas and has Czar-like control over what Innova produces. He's not into retro.
Jesse B 707
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its pretty clear that its trying to be more of a Buzz than a Comet
BIG MACK
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I thought the Coyote was an attempt to be more like the Buzzz.
BIG MACK said:
I don't really think so. The convex wing on the Coyote was an idea that Dave also used in the Roadrunner. This idea does not produce a stable disc at any speed, so I'm sure Dave D. knew it would not be like a Buzzz. I wouldn't be surprised if the bottom wing of the Mako is somewhat Buzzz-like (or beadless roc-like). However I wouldn't be surprised if it was something a little different altogether because the concave bottom wing on the Buzzz gives it a more driver type fly-on-line-then-fade flight and Dave describes the Mako as flying on a putter-type line.
IllustratorVir
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I disagree...x-out said:
