Hitting a fairway tree(s) is enough of a punishment because it removes a realistic chance to score (birdie) on a par 3 without a hero throw-in where they deserve the bird if it occurs. No OB needed. If not having players thrash around in the woods is the goal, give players the option to throw again counting the errant throw (not penalty) in their score, i.e., apply the Abandoned Throw rule but without penalty (needs waiver).
Many (most) players take forever setting up for their scramble shots. It kills the pace of play. I also like the use of drop zones. Picking up the pace of play should be encouraged as much as possible-makes the game more fun to play and watch.
I am wondering if club and ball golf course did not want people going in woods and bending trees around and similar hitting. I could see club and ball golfers might have similar rules for being out of bounds in this section of course.
With so many of the Pro players being of an age where they never had to learn how read a map and have only ever used a GPS/phone device for a map telling person where to go or at best only know how to read non-topographical map if these players have at least used a basic disc golf sign map is the issue for why more players do not find maps like this useful.
It's rare to have a marked OB area (stroke and distance penalty) inside the play area of a ball golf course. Note that they don't mark the area beyond the spectator ropes OB. It's inbounds along with landing in other fairways. The player can always take unplayable lie penalty relief versus hacking out of a thicket. However, a well-designed ball golf course usually doesn't have thick, unplayable woods between fairways.
Other players calling out the throwing players on their card on time limit of (I forget 30 or 45 seconds) on shot needs to happen more once player is in position to throw.
I don't think this will ever happen. Players are too busy worrying about their own situation to be dealing with this. Plus they don't want to cause a rift with other players.
I have been told by a surprising number of people that I am 'making up' the elevation profiles and contour lines just to decorate the map. They have no idea this technology even exists. My favorite interaction was this response from Seth Fendley who at the time was the marketing director for DGPT. I was trying to point out that elevation levels were incorrect at the match play event in Baily, CO in 2022. I had to post on Facebook because they don't respond to emails. (to help put this into context, LIDAR derived elevation data has a vertical accuracy of about 10 centimeters - 4 inches)
Cedar Creek in Fairmont, MN? I made the hole maps for East, West and Central. The tee signs were designed by Justin Boehne.
You noticed that too?
Yes, we need PDGA or rather Pro tour officials on course following those who are slower/lead-chase cards, or at least a person on each hole who is responsible for enforcing said hole.
i never look at the signs on east and west anymoar but once central was installed i had to look a few times and then they stuck out in my mind as some of the best signs ive seen
Might want to ask Seth why they aren't using the Bushnell elevation data then. So far, I haven't seen much of Bushnell in the advertising/sponsorship arena this year. Wasn't Uli one of their spokespersons?
In this case the Bushnell elevation data was the problem and of course the marketing guy defended the sponsor. Also you saw the part about not answering emails. They circle the wagons and take on a 'smartest guys in the room' attitude.
Of course, "operator error" using the Bushnell for elev readings would never produce any errors...
Right! Could never happen
Image in post #66b is awesome!
