Uli's walking putt

[sidewinder22]

It's not that hard if you practice it: certainly no harder than jump-setting in volleyball (speaking from experience, as a former setter in college AND a jump-putter in the early 1980s, before getting involved in organized disc golf). Or a fall-away jumper or dipsy-doodle scoop in basketball.

Sure you might get proficient at a harder shot, but I just don't see how they get any advantage with extra moving parts and no connection to the ground, if you want to do a jumper on a free throw, good luck to you. I don't see a reason to be asinine on something you need high speed frame by frame replay to be absolutely certain about. :\

FWIW I think step putting looks so stupid and is the only reason it should be not allowed. :gross:

 

[Captain Bad]

Flex - a 'helix' is not a disc golf shot.

Actually, "helix" is another term for a flex shot.

Admittedly, I don't know what was named after what: the disc after the shot or the shot after the disc.

 

[Sooner34]

I was taught Helix before I heard turnover, flex, or even Anny.

 

[The Hammer]

There is nothing stopping anyone, which to me shows just how mechanically useless his style is. It actually is a lot different from a traditional jump putt. A jump putt translates additional energy into the disc, Uli's does not, or maybe just very little energy. There are lots of jump putters who lead their follow through with the back leg. Wysocki, McCray, and Doss to name 3 off the top of my head. Those guys release much earlier, because thats when the energy generated by their body is translated into the throw.

If you dont believe me try Uli's style sometime. If your a push putter at all the lack of energy imparted will be immediately obvious. Its a little more subtle for spin putters but still noticeable.

The other big difference between Uli's walk and a jump putt is that jump putting is much more obviously legal. Ive never seen a jump putter and gone "hm that might have been a foot fault"

Yes, this style of jump putt has an advantage. The plant foot is pushing the entire body toward the target giving more distance potential. Uli has taught me this himself, and it is highly effective. He wouldn't do it if there wasn't a benefit.

 

[The Hammer]

I already cash long putts putting like a normal person and don't look like a goofball jumping or running. It's called having snap and spin. They should make a rule where your feet can't cross in front of your disc/mark before the disc is released. That would stop this idiocy. I guess you could still hop around like a frog but not step putt.

When are you going on tour?

 

[gcr_russell]

When are you going on tour?

The Hammer is active this morning. I have some Aloe Vera if anyone needs me to ship it to them.

 

[The Hammer]

Oh, and I'll add that if you have learned this style of jump putt, you would know that if your foot contacts the ground before release, the disc will come out like a wounded duck, and be totally ineffective.

 

[The Hammer]

The Hammer is active this morning. I have some Aloe Vera if anyone needs me to ship it to them.

Slow day at the office.

 

[Guurn]

I used to do the walking putt because it is much easier on my body.

If you honestly think he is touching and throwing at about the same time,try it. It is almost impossible to do a walking putt when you put the front foot down. Now I'm not talking about setting the foot down firmly and then putting. I'm talking about just touching, like in the examples you are putting forth and putting. It takes away all of the energy you were putting into the putt.

Try it on a 30' putt or longer and see if you still think they would want to do it.

 

[mfcastillo17]

Oh, and I'll add that if you have learned this style of jump putt, you would know that if your foot contacts the ground before release, the disc will come out like a wounded duck, and be totally ineffective.

Yup. 100% correct.

Uli does it, Rovere does it, Feldberg does it. They are all better than anyone on this forum. As often as these dudes are on video and play in front of a gallery (albeit small) if it was blatant cheating as some have said, they would have been called out a long time ago. And by called out I mean by fellow competitors.

 

[Flip Hyzerman]

No, that is the name of a disc.

Actually, "helix" is another term for a flex shot.

Admittedly, I don't know what was named after what: the disc after the shot or the shot after the disc.

 

[mashnut]

No, that is the name of a disc.

Nope, helix was the term used early on for what we call a flex shot now. It's not used all that often anymore, but I still hear older golfers (especially here in southern California) call it that.

 

[Pbmercil]

Uli does it, Rovere does it, Feldberg does it

Eh. Feldberg's style is similar, but the release is much earlier and more obvious then Uli. Though the styles are similar I don't think its a fair comparison cuz Feldberg's left foot is still pretty high when he releases.

 

[tbird888]

I've followed pros during rounds, and they were quick to enforce the rules whether it was a stance violation, relief, OB drop, etc. Uli's been putting like this for a long time without calls from anyone, including when everyone was chasing him at Worlds.

Imagine what kind of competition the pros would have if all these keyboard experts put the same amount of time into their game as they do crying over nothing...

 

[Aim For The Chains]

Lol. Frog/toad jump putters feeling like Packers fans

 

[Kodachrome]

it's obvious once you do it, i agree. the only way to do it effectively is to release before you hit the ground. any other way is unnatural; your landing foot stops your momentum and defeats the purpose.

i still hate watching it though. i do it sometimes and i think "i'm a dick" every single time.

here's a question: say someone decides to call you on a foot fault for it and someone seconds it. you have to accept it even though it was legal, right?

 

[Pbmercil]

here's a question: say someone decides to call you on a foot fault for it and someone seconds it. you have to accept it even though it was legal, right?

Ack. We just had a whole thread about that hypothetical, and it was obnoxious. Unless you want to raise hell and call your reputt a provisional and take it up with the TD or an Official later the foot fault will stand as called. You "knowing" you were legal doesn't effect the call at all

 

[Kodachrome]

Ack. We just had a whole thread about that hypothetical, and it was obnoxious. Unless you want to raise hell and call your reputt a provisional and take it up with the TD or an Official later the foot fault will stand as called. You "knowing" you were legal doesn't effect the call at all

i figured as much.

i personally would call it a provisional because **** you, i'm legal.

 

[krupicka]

i figured as much.

i personally would call it a provisional because **** you, i'm legal.

And this is one of the reasons people are hesitant to make calls. If a warning/penalty is called the offender needs to just take the penalties calmly and not argue, complain, retailiate, etc about them.

 

[Kodachrome]

And this is one of the reasons people are hesitant to make calls. If a warning/penalty is called the offender needs to just take the penalties calmly and not argue, complain, retailiate, etc about them.

I don't believe I ever mentioned anything about arguing, complaining, or retaliation.

I said I'd take a provisional. I also mentioned my inner dialogue that would be occurring at the time. We would talk to the td and get the ruling one way or another, and there would be no issue.