No. That course is about 4 hours away from this one.
Rob Ryan got in off the wait list.
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No. That course is about 4 hours away from this one.
Rob Ryan got in off the wait list.
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It´s very interesting that Hokom can win on one of the longest Courses on tour . . .i dont know Sarahs max distance but it must be quite a bit short of Paige ,Cat and Jen
But Paiges "go for eveything" style of play obviously didn´t work this time. . . I Think Paige has two weaknesses, C1 putting and playing safe
But Paiges "go for eveything" style of play obviously didn´t work this time. . . I Think Paige has two weaknesses, C1 putting and playing safe
Spectacledbear
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Where are you guys watching the womans coverage?
2naphish
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udisclive for scores then the edited pre MPO broadcast.
SD86
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The DGPT is doing the FPO lead card with commentary on the same YouTube feed as the live MPO coverage. You'll see it on YouTube as both of them together. The FPO is done first, and today Madison Walker and Kona Paris commentated; then Terry and Dixon did the live MPO lead card commentary as it happened.
SD86
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What, no big controversies in the SFO?
What is Disc Golf and the World coming to?!?!
What is Disc Golf and the World coming to?!?!
lyleoross
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Commentary advice. I haven't gotten myself in trouble in a while so I'm gonna catch up. When I was in grad school, we were required to give a major talk during our second year. One woman gave a talk in which she giggled several times. At the end, the department chair made the following statement. "We are in a male dominated field. As such, it is hard for women to be taken seriously by men who are frankly, sexist. Giggling, in any form, is not your friend and should be avoided." Yes, I know, I'm a sexist pig. Zoe, iirc had a very on personality during the Masters commentary with Cory? Good study.
Now, I suppose that telling a joke, and laughing at it, is acceptable, but frankly, some of the jokes I'm hearing from male commentators just aren't that funny. I'd rather be spared. Jamie Thomas isn't always to my liking, but he takes the job seriously and sticks to information. There is plenty to discuss including player technique and conditions.
As a Houstonian i can frankly say, if i want to watch basketball, I will, i'm here for the disc golf.
Ian is still my favorite commentator. He pairs with a course expert and asks questions that lead to a good discussion of the course. Jamie and Avery play the expert roll really well for DeLa. I mention them because they are so good at DeLa trivia, and USDGC trivia that they set a really high bar.
I don't want to hear how you played the hole. I want to hear how you think the Pro on the pad is going to play the hole and how their style of play suits the hole. I'm not saying this never happens, but it's all that should happen imo.
In post production commentary, we are playing a game, you pretend you don't know the out comes, and I pretend I don't know that you know the out comes. When Sarah aces, you are friggen surprised and excited. Don't, don't tell me you knew, buzz killer. Nate and Jerm get this.
Don't talk about your fellow commentator as if they aren't there. Yes Bradley, I'm talkin' to you. I actually liked your deadpan style, but the Paul comments were, [falsetto on] awkward [falsetto off].
Please remember, these are my opinions and desires and should not be taken too seriously.
Now, I suppose that telling a joke, and laughing at it, is acceptable, but frankly, some of the jokes I'm hearing from male commentators just aren't that funny. I'd rather be spared. Jamie Thomas isn't always to my liking, but he takes the job seriously and sticks to information. There is plenty to discuss including player technique and conditions.
As a Houstonian i can frankly say, if i want to watch basketball, I will, i'm here for the disc golf.
Ian is still my favorite commentator. He pairs with a course expert and asks questions that lead to a good discussion of the course. Jamie and Avery play the expert roll really well for DeLa. I mention them because they are so good at DeLa trivia, and USDGC trivia that they set a really high bar.
I don't want to hear how you played the hole. I want to hear how you think the Pro on the pad is going to play the hole and how their style of play suits the hole. I'm not saying this never happens, but it's all that should happen imo.
In post production commentary, we are playing a game, you pretend you don't know the out comes, and I pretend I don't know that you know the out comes. When Sarah aces, you are friggen surprised and excited. Don't, don't tell me you knew, buzz killer. Nate and Jerm get this.
Don't talk about your fellow commentator as if they aren't there. Yes Bradley, I'm talkin' to you. I actually liked your deadpan style, but the Paul comments were, [falsetto on] awkward [falsetto off].
Please remember, these are my opinions and desires and should not be taken too seriously.
lyleoross
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As a note, Steve Dodge's commentaries are not to my liking. That said, his interview with Paul this last week was brilliant. He got a lot of interesting things out of Paul that I've never heard any pro say but that were oh wow moments. Complements!
SD86
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Gotta admit, when Wysocki went for it on 16 (I think it was 16) and proceeded to make sausage, I was 'not displeased' opcorn:
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SD86
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I agree with a lot of this. Ian is the very best host commentator. As you said, he is excellent at drawing out his color commentator's knowledge and expertise, and in helping new commentators get better. He also lets the color commentator run with it at the right pace. When Cory hosted the DeLa commentary, he did (try to) draw out the color commentator (Kona, IIRC?), but sometimes ran through a lot of minutiae while the players were being shown throwing. Overall good.
Nate and Big Jerm are "awn" sometimes, and sometimes get a little off the rails. Nate usually takes the "host" commentator role, and in doing so should rein in Big Jerm when Jerm starts getting tangential.
I think Madison Walker is getting better by leaps and bounds. Yes, the young ladies giggle sometimes. I guess I'm getting used to it; it doesn't bother me very much. I don't really mind one asking the other "what did you throw on this hole?"... I usually learn something in the answers. I do think they need to coordinate the "this hole is hard to birdie"... "I birdied it" stuff. That sounded weird. But in the all and all, they're doing well and getting better... and I'm not sure they're getting paid much, if at all, for their efforts.
Nate and Big Jerm are "awn" sometimes, and sometimes get a little off the rails. Nate usually takes the "host" commentator role, and in doing so should rein in Big Jerm when Jerm starts getting tangential.
I think Madison Walker is getting better by leaps and bounds. Yes, the young ladies giggle sometimes. I guess I'm getting used to it; it doesn't bother me very much. I don't really mind one asking the other "what did you throw on this hole?"... I usually learn something in the answers. I do think they need to coordinate the "this hole is hard to birdie"... "I birdied it" stuff. That sounded weird. But in the all and all, they're doing well and getting better... and I'm not sure they're getting paid much, if at all, for their efforts.
Madison did not get compensated in anyway from my understanding. She did make a post on Facebook about donations to help pay for some of the other women to get paid.
Madison is getting much better at directing the conversation towards disc golf. But she still sometimes lets her personality out and that is a lot of giggling.
And I give Madison a lot of credit to get off the course go immediately to the booth and commentate for an hour. And on top of that she was able to convince a different woman each day to come in and help her out.
Madison is getting much better at directing the conversation towards disc golf. But she still sometimes lets her personality out and that is a lot of giggling.
And I give Madison a lot of credit to get off the course go immediately to the booth and commentate for an hour. And on top of that she was able to convince a different woman each day to come in and help her out.
I think Madison did a really good job
But i feel ALL the videos are cut a bit fast, there is VERY little time for the commentators . . .throw, cut, throw cut..in just a few seconds. . there is no time to comment the shot
I agree. In edited footage, commentary is next to impossible to get "right" (depending on your preference). There are really only two ways to approach it...
1) Sportscenter highlight style...straight-forward and to the point. This is the player, this is what they threw, this is the result, next shot. No real banter, not much opinion, just the facts. Tough to do off the cuff seeing the footage for the first time (sportscasters tend to have a script when calling highlights).
2) DVD commentary track style...a running conversation that is allowed to stray from the action once in a while in order to tell stories or give explanations. That's even as other footage rolls underneath and gets "missed" by the commenters. This is the much easier method when viewing something for the first time, as it is supposed to be more loose and relaxed (giggling allowed).
I think anyone watching commentary on edited footage and wanting it to sound like they're commenting on live action has unfair expectations.
I totally agree. With the post production style that we painted ourselves in a corner with, it's very difficult to do play-by-play and color commentary. The action happens so fast and by the time you make a comment about one shot the screen is already two shots in front of you. It would require each front nine and back nine To be at least 10 to 15 additional minutes of filler to get really good in-depth commentary on the videos.
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