Brodie Smith PDGA #128378

[ChrisWoj]

Didn't he say by the end of this season/year in a recent video?

I find it interesting that everyone assumes he will be a top player. Does that mean any athlete on a semi-pro level could come to disc golf, put their time in, and be a top player? Maybe that is true of a lot of sports.

I know he did ultimate and that is throwing discs, but other ultimate players seem to not necessarily make the transition all the time.

But for your question....hmmm, shortened season, new this year and at least on videos making choices that I even know are not the best option...your June 2021 for overall rating seems reasonable. He'll probably have 1000 rated rounds this year though.

What you're asking depends a lot on the specifics of the athletic movements in those other sports... Brodie, however, didn't just come from another sport. He came from another DISC sport, and one where he was at least in the conversation at one point for the title of best player in the world. That implies a HUGE inherent skill and comfort with discs coming into disc golf, as well as a monstrous demonstrated work ethic.

 

[riltim]

He must be doing something right with the fan base if the "Blame the tick!" tank-tops are sold out in all but small and medium at $22 a pop. You'd have to be a pretty big fan to buy a shirt with such an obscure reference.

 

[DiscFifty]

"At the moment" is the operative term.
I don't think he has the mentality to be anything other than an average pro golfer and I think he'll get bored.
He can't shut the f$&k up for more than 30 seconds, he's 32 and acts like a 16 year old.
He fits in with the obnoxious Eric Oakley and AJ Risley load mouth attention seeking fan fad, he's the bomb for a while and next year no one cares anymore.
We'll see. I gave him a chance and the more I see of him, the more annoyed I am.
Best of luck to him, but he's not selling me on any of the dark horse kool-aid gibberish.

lol.. Oakley and Risely.... Brodie is and always will be an entertainer 1st, pro athlete 2nd. But sure....I think he's fine with being an average pro golfer, but at the same time he's an above average entrepreneur building revenue streams from his original content, making deals with Discraft, Foundation and others. If you followed him for a few years like I have, he knows he's 30+, knows he needs to latch onto $omething $table long term. At this point I believe HE thinks he has found it with disc golf. Personality wise... I think he is extremely good for the sport, dude knows where the market is (growing new players) and how to appeal to them.

 

[brutalbrutus]

Do any of guys have a Discord account or follow him on twitter? If so, ask him if his rounds are going to be filmed this weekend.

 

[Nick Pacific]

If you dislike Risley, I recommend watching Round 1 of Challenge at the Goat Hill. Philo doesn't hold back in picking apart his form (bad rounding), disc selection (enforcer), and his decision making (OB mistakes every other hole).

I wish I could have a longtime seasoned pro like Philo dissect my game and point out mistakes over a produced round like that.

 

[foreputt]

I think he'll get to 1000 this year no problem. It's basically a distance thing on most courses and he seems to have it. Going from 960 to 1000 is much easier than 1000 to 1040.

 

[BuiltTooLong]

I wish I could have a longtime seasoned pro like Philo dissect my game and point out mistakes over a produced round like that.

Agreed, however Risley has been around the game and Pros for practically his entire life, so if he is still rounding that badly now, I don't see it changing just because Philo pointed it out. He doesn't have a forehand either, so if Philo were to point that out too, would he suddenly be able to develop one?

As for the decision making, I commented on a youtube video he was in last year, about him running silly putts and getting punished for it. Well he responded super aggressive that he will ALWAYS continue to run those putts, no matter what any one says. :\

 

[BryanC]

I'm willing to bet a disc he won't be rated 1000 this year at any time.

I'm your huckleberry.

We're less than halfway through 2020 and his rating has already gone from 0 to 960! I have a chance!

 

[Jolt]

Looks like they sold out that $500/month Patreon in a week

 

[brutalbrutus]

 

[brutalbrutus]

Spoiler

Paul is a machine, lol... He was maybe a combined 2ft from shooting -10 on the front9

 

[foreputt]

I didn't know there was this much money in disc golf. But if they want to give it to you you might as well take it.

 

[Jolt]

Odd time for Brodie to join Foundation and making it Discraft exlucive. . .basicly everything is sold out
Hard to run a business when you don´t have anything to sell

I wonder how long it will take for Discraft to catch up, SOO many moulds that are sold out everywhere

 

[wolfhaley]

I didn't realize they were going Discraft only. Now that seems like an odd decision but what do I know. I'll stick with infinite and marshall street.

 

[DiscJunkie]

I didn't realize they were going Discraft only. Now that seems like an odd decision but what do I know. I'll stick with infinite and marshall street.

Paul's goal is to build his "brand" first.
That is why he went to Discraft.
He is using his brand to build business for his store.
And using the store to sell his brand.
In that regard, selling other company's merchandise is inconsistent with his goals.

 

[Nick Pacific]

As for the decision making, I commented on a youtube video he was in last year, about him running silly putts and getting punished for it. Well he responded super aggressive that he will ALWAYS continue to run those putts, no matter what any one says. :\

That's pretty cool that he at least responded. One of the best things about our sport is how accessible our pros still are. This won't be the case pretty soon as our sport explodes in popularity. Go tweet at any NBA player and see if you get a response. You won't.

 

[DatRedDude]

That's pretty cool that he at least responded. One of the best things about our sport is how accessible our pros still are. This won't be the case pretty soon as our sport explodes in popularity. Go tweet at any NBA player and see if you get a response. You won't.

this will always be the case with frolfers.

 

[nrihan]

I was really into Brodie doing the disc golf thing, but man, this off-season has just left a sour taste in my mouth. Selling so many discs with his name on it and he hasn't done **** in an actual round of disc golf. I know I just sound salty that he's selling discs and shirts.....it just seems so.....****ing corny. But he is popular, so make that $$ i guess.

Its weird though. Paul seems to be using Brodie to build his brand and be the charismatic one and Brodie is using Paul to give himself legitimacy and using him like a coach. Interesting dynamic.

 

[brutalbrutus]

 

[DiscFifty]

I was really into Brodie doing the disc golf thing, but man, this off-season has just left a sour taste in my mouth. Selling so many discs with his name on it and he hasn't done **** in an actual round of disc golf. I know I just sound salty that he's selling discs and shirts.....it just seems so.....****ing corny. But he is popular, so make that $$ i guess.

Its weird though. Paul seems to be using Brodie to build his brand and be the charismatic one and Brodie is using Paul to give himself legitimacy and using him like a coach. Interesting dynamic.

I think they both realized they can help each other. It's been an interesting few years. The "older" players like Paul, Simon, Ricky (27-30), Brodie (32) all imop have started thinking about life after touring disc golf, so they are attempting to build long term revenue opportunities. Foundation sounds like a stepping stone for both Paul and Brodie. Long term I think it would be a huge mistake for Paul not to build a brand off his own name, but then again...someone already did....

http://mcbethdiscgolf.com

"this off-season has just left a sour taste in my mouth." I agree there seems to be a sense of urgency with Brodie regarding merch sales. But then again...he comes from a different mindset than 99% of the other players. Dude can retail.