Mr. America
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What are you talking about with ball golf? The PGA tour can smoke, cuss, throw ****, eat and who knows what else. I'd be surprised if they were banned from alcohol on the course.
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Smoking BANNED at 2011 Worlds
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What are you talking about with ball golf? The PGA tour can smoke, cuss, throw ****, eat and who knows what else. I'd be surprised if they were banned from alcohol on the course.
AcesandChains
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Right on basketcase....right on.
My apologies for starting a thread that has already been talked about here:
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33080
If you want to read the original thread, see above.
I only found out about this rule this morning, so I thought I was the first to post about it....my bad.
Seems like a hot topic though.....
My apologies for starting a thread that has already been talked about here:
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33080
If you want to read the original thread, see above.
I only found out about this rule this morning, so I thought I was the first to post about it....my bad.
Seems like a hot topic though.....
AcesandChains
Birdie Member
Mr. America -
What he's talking about is where the PDGA wants to take us. For that matter, most Pros I talk to feel like we have to become even more stodgy and politically correct than what the PGA tries to be. You know as well as I do that the PDGA feels we need to be more like ball golf in order to "get respect."
Granted, some of us mistakenly assume that the PGA bans smoking too, but that's not true.
Just for the record, the poster you are berating never said the PGA banned smoking. He just said that we don't have to be stuck up like ball golf to be recognized.
What he's talking about is where the PDGA wants to take us. For that matter, most Pros I talk to feel like we have to become even more stodgy and politically correct than what the PGA tries to be. You know as well as I do that the PDGA feels we need to be more like ball golf in order to "get respect."
Granted, some of us mistakenly assume that the PGA bans smoking too, but that's not true.
Just for the record, the poster you are berating never said the PGA banned smoking. He just said that we don't have to be stuck up like ball golf to be recognized.
Damn. Another one! We get it smokers have their panties in a bunch over the new rule.
Oh you! I was doing that and got an error.
AcesandChains
Birdie Member
skip this
Hmmm.....this response is to someone's post I don't see anymore, so I removed it....
Anyone know how to delete a post you made?
Hmmm.....this response is to someone's post I don't see anymore, so I removed it....
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AcesandChains
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PDGA contact info
Here is where you can comment on the ban to the PDGA. I'm not asking anyone to comment for or against. Just providing the link in case you are interested:
http://www.pdga.com/contact?a=sf&contact=Rules Committee
Here is where you can comment on the ban to the PDGA. I'm not asking anyone to comment for or against. Just providing the link in case you are interested:
http://www.pdga.com/contact?a=sf&contact=Rules Committee
Most of us know why this is being done, and those of us that don't agree can always support more unsanctioned amateur tournaments. (You could do this AcesandChains) 
If they want to be taken seriously I believe the P.D.G.A. should focus on pro and open level players, and leave the ams alone. Rules interpretations can become a nightmare for most ams, and they buttrape them when it comes to fees and payout. Come on, who wants to keep giving money away when all the fun is getting sucked out by the sanctioning body of the (SPORT)? This is probably why 2 out of 3 players seem to drop their membership after a few years.
I haven't shot sanctioned play in almost a decade and I'm still having fun.
If they want to be taken seriously I believe the P.D.G.A. should focus on pro and open level players, and leave the ams alone. Rules interpretations can become a nightmare for most ams, and they buttrape them when it comes to fees and payout. Come on, who wants to keep giving money away when all the fun is getting sucked out by the sanctioning body of the (SPORT)? This is probably why 2 out of 3 players seem to drop their membership after a few years.
I haven't shot sanctioned play in almost a decade and I'm still having fun.
AcesandChains
Birdie Member
Sure, I could do that. But in my mind, that would be abandoning the sport. It's akin to the argument that, if you don't like what our government is doing, then move to another country. I don't want to move. I want to improve the place I live and play in. and I want to help grow the sport and make it better.
Let me rephrase that.....I AM helping to grow the sport and make it better.
Also, the PDGA already focuses on the Pro level player. And yes, I do agree that this is part of their problem in attracting and keeping amatuer players as members of the PDGA. But I don't think they should abandon the Amatuers. Nor do I think they will.
And lastly, don't forget that where disc golf goes via the sanctioning body, casual disc golf will follow to a certain extent. There will be changes brought about thru the PDGA that will eventually trickle down to casual play. Take collared shirts for instance. Even in casual play, most ball golf courses will require you to wear a collared shirt. If the PDGA continues in the direction it's going, that will eventually become true for disc golf too.......even for casual play. So, from that standpoint, even if you don't play sanctioned tournaments, you have a stake in what the PDGA does.
Let me rephrase that.....I AM helping to grow the sport and make it better.
Also, the PDGA already focuses on the Pro level player. And yes, I do agree that this is part of their problem in attracting and keeping amatuer players as members of the PDGA. But I don't think they should abandon the Amatuers. Nor do I think they will.
And lastly, don't forget that where disc golf goes via the sanctioning body, casual disc golf will follow to a certain extent. There will be changes brought about thru the PDGA that will eventually trickle down to casual play. Take collared shirts for instance. Even in casual play, most ball golf courses will require you to wear a collared shirt. If the PDGA continues in the direction it's going, that will eventually become true for disc golf too.......even for casual play. So, from that standpoint, even if you don't play sanctioned tournaments, you have a stake in what the PDGA does.
My general response.
If i'm not mistaken David Feldberg, Avery Jenkins, & Cale Leiviska all voted on this. All 3 a top touring pros and serve on the PDGA Board. I know Feldberg is/was a smoker but i'm not sure of the other 2. The PDGA is represented by those who vote. I suggest contacting those making the decisions. If you are not a PDGA you have no voice. If you want a voice join.
I'm not a smoker and could care less about this rule. I'm not playing Worlds this year anyway. I would like to see what would happen if RJ Reynolds or Philip Morris sponsored Pro Worlds with $100,000 to the payout.
If i'm not mistaken David Feldberg, Avery Jenkins, & Cale Leiviska all voted on this. All 3 a top touring pros and serve on the PDGA Board. I know Feldberg is/was a smoker but i'm not sure of the other 2. The PDGA is represented by those who vote. I suggest contacting those making the decisions. If you are not a PDGA you have no voice. If you want a voice join.
I'm not a smoker and could care less about this rule. I'm not playing Worlds this year anyway. I would like to see what would happen if RJ Reynolds or Philip Morris sponsored Pro Worlds with $100,000 to the payout.
Most DG courses are not privately owned so I don't know how the collared shirt argument applies.
We can all support our local leagues, clubs, players, and the spirit of the game without supporting the P.D.G.A., and the game will continue to evolve and grow.
My main point is this, as an amateur I can't just go out and join M.L.B., the N.B.A., or the N.F.L. I think even the P.G.A. makes you complete an apprenticeship.
Maybe if the P.D.G.A. hosted am events as qualifying openers for larger sanctioned events, then they could support the am level and keep their focus on being a Professional organization.
My main point is this, as an amateur I can't just go out and join M.L.B., the N.B.A., or the N.F.L. I think even the P.G.A. makes you complete an apprenticeship.
Maybe if the P.D.G.A. hosted am events as qualifying openers for larger sanctioned events, then they could support the am level and keep their focus on being a Professional organization.
AcesandChains
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"Most DG courses are not privately owned so I don't know how the collared shirt argument applies."
That'll change if disc golf gets as big as ball golf...which is what the PDGA is working toward. And a collared shirt is already required (or a sport shirt) on National Tour. It's basically just an example of our sport trying to become a little more uptight. Or at least, pretending to be uptight so we don't offend those who are. I know I didn't say that in a politically correct fashion, but that's what it is.
It'll be done one piece at a time.......like banning smoking at Worlds.
That'll change if disc golf gets as big as ball golf...which is what the PDGA is working toward. And a collared shirt is already required (or a sport shirt) on National Tour. It's basically just an example of our sport trying to become a little more uptight. Or at least, pretending to be uptight so we don't offend those who are. I know I didn't say that in a politically correct fashion, but that's what it is.
It'll be done one piece at a time.......like banning smoking at Worlds.
I think it's safe to say that disc golf will never be as big as bolf and even if the national tour has a dress code it will not cascade to the recreational player. I can go bowling in a T-shirt.
Speaking of bowling do they have any rules about smoking in competition?
Why yes they do!
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OMG you can't smoke while bowling? Communists!!
basketcase15
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commies always gettin in our biz, DAMN THEM
Spatula Cornroll
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Are we going to be banning jews and blacks next????
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