I can do it, even at this elevation, with my 172g Neutron. It has lost almost all its fade but still has perfect HSS. I have to put a little more shoulder angle into it then it would my KC Aviars or Polecat, thougj
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Are you finding the Envy capable of holding an anny line to the ground? I've been beating up a 175 Neutron Envy since the spring and it still wants to fight out unless it's on a really steep line or snapped hard. I'm struggling to get the "touch" with the Envy on those lines.
Do lower weights have a little less beef?
Are you finding the Envy capable of holding an anny line to the ground? I've been beating up a 175 Neutron Envy since the spring and it still wants to fight out unless it's on a really steep line or snapped hard. I'm struggling to get the "touch" with the Envy on those lines.
Do lower weights have a little less beef?
Maybe I'm weird, but I've always liked the Envy's habit of flexing out the tiniest bit at the end of an anny shot. I rather disliked how my Ions would catch edge and roll, and I've never had an Envy do that.
I feel the same, I got a 165 proton, 170Neutron and 174N Envy's... I find the big ones pretty beefy, but the 165 is so easy to control it bagged a spot fairly fast. I prefer to throw it instead of a Tursas/Comet/Anode etc for anhyzers because it will break out of the turn on a short range and not overshoot. Just makes for a great placement disc since it won't burn into the ground even on a 45degree angle. The light weight makes it controllable and the stability makes it forgiving. It's covered a lot of spots in the bag!
Agreed 100%. I'm always blown away by the legs on this mold. I gravitate towards versatile discs and the Envy has to be the Swiss Army knife of the putter world.
when people say this i can tell they love to throw discs "hard" with tons of OAT. ions are way more versatile than envys. just like a nuke is more versatile than a nuke os.
this forum is full of chuckers, the envy was a science experiment to prove it.
Them's fightin' words
Lol he tries. I know how I throw. I know the envy FOR ME is a more versatile disc. It holds lower lines better than the ion & is more comfortable in my hand. If that makes it a "chucker" disc then slap the label on me. I'll chuck Envys all day.
I bag 4 Envy's. 2 soft 165g putters, 170 N for off the tee, and the 175g Watermelon is the best approach hyzer disc I have ever had. The softs hold great lines for approaching too. 4 putters in the bag some would consider overkill but when they are able to cover all P&A and most Mid Range duties, 3-4 different molds of Envy's has been great.
I carry seven Envys, so no judgment here. :hfive:
How are the 165 gram Envies for driving? Do they still have enough beef? I am going with literally only 3 discs right now, and I was thinking about picking up a lighter soft Envy just to see if I could get a little more juice out of it on longer putts. But if it is going to be weaker off the tee then I am not sure it's worth snagging...
They're still $. They inch closer to a wizard/KC aviar in stability. Rock solid HSS but not much fade to be found. I nabbed a 165g S N Envy and it glides better, holds a forced turn easier & pushes straighter for a good amount longer. Not flippy or US by ANY means.