I played a round after a tourney I played today. So I lose a disc I was mad. I get in the watter and start picking disc after disc then I think I find it. Nope same disc and weight and same color, but not mine. I finally found it. I went from being -1 Disc to + 15 Disc. I'll probably end up selling them on ebay or on here. One of them was japanese. Only one had a name on it and I called ,and said he wants it to die so I can have it.