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Just to put an end to the speculation and the arguments at holiday tables I will be staying with Team Prodigy for 2021.
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Anthon gone from innova per Facebook post:
"I would like to announce that I left innova after 18years. I'm a free agent now. Hopefully that means I'm finally free of all the political BS lol."
Sounds like his apology and cover up announcement earlier in the year was BS as well.
Beyond the fact that... well... WELCOME TO CAPITALISM... For any of this to have to be correct you'd have to assume that the bulk of the people buying from Innova have any idea who Josh Anthon is or why he'd matter to them from a social justice perspective. You are dramatically overstating the number of people who have a clue who Josh Anthon is. I'd bet 75% of the people who've owned a Josh Anthon Destroyer have no idea who he is much less why he'd be relevant to them. And that in itself is only a small sample of the overall consumer base for Innova.I think they were not Good Enough for Dave D and He still hurt sales. This is not surprising since about 50% of the Y generation is not letting companies make a single mistake ever, they have to be 100% perfect in everything they do all the time even a minute mistake can be made or the larger Y generation 50% will boycott the brand and they are that same 50% thinking companies need to be 100% flawless. I hate the snobby Y part even more then the Millennials this way as the current Y are even more snobby in thought.
I say for Innova to fix this and get any of this 50% of Y back promote Philo to right behind Ricky Wysocki. This would have to be done for real and not joking at all even if due to not winning right now or not wanting to be that high in the sponsored team, just promote him automatically without his consent if he does not want give it and be higher on the team.
It would have to be done to fix this wrong by Innova to win that large Y generation that 50% of the Disc golf players in that group back. X well not sure, they tend to use whatever works right now for discs and are smarter, they know not to buy anything Anthon related from Innova that promotes him or lets him get $$ sponsor money from it.
Beyond the fact that... well... WELCOME TO CAPITALISM... For any of this to have to be correct you'd have to assume that the bulk of the people buying from Innova have any idea who Josh Anthon is or why he'd matter to them from a social justice perspective. You are dramatically overstating the number of people who have a clue who Josh Anthon is. I'd bet 75% of the people who've owned a Josh Anthon Destroyer have no idea who he is much less why he'd be relevant to them. And that in itself is only a small sample of the overall consumer base for Innova.
I have been holding back on this for a few days, but I noticed two things when Ezra was on Brodie's YouTube channel:
1) Brodie corrected himself when he said, "You have a Zone in your bag," to "you had a Zone." So a hint he is not going to sign with Discraft?
2) Brodie commented after Ezra missed an in-circle putt, "What is Eric McCabe going to say?" Sounds like team DD to me.
Maybe I am way off, but I just noticed those two things and thought everyone else would too.
This sound about right?
"leaving sponsor" means fired or no new contract offered.
"changing sponsor" means turned down lower offer and is now looking for a better deal elsewhere.
hmm... he does put out the short DD style informative videos. Ezra needs a sponsor that will let home focus on his game and play a bunch of tournaments. I'm still hoping either Discmania or Innova. With Josh gone, that might open something up from Innova. But....there could be something to Ezra appearing on Brodie's channel. hmm....
I think they were not Good Enough for Dave D and He still hurt sales. This is not surprising since about 50% of the Y generation is not letting companies make a single mistake ever, they have to be 100% perfect in everything they do all the time even a minute mistake can be made or the larger Y generation 50% will boycott the brand and they are that same 50% thinking companies need to be 100% flawless. I hate the snobby Y part even more then the Millennials this way as the current Y are even more snobby in thought.
I say for Innova to fix this and get any of this 50% of Y back promote Philo to right behind Ricky Wysocki. This would have to be done for real and not joking at all even if due to not winning right now or not wanting to be that high in the sponsored team, just promote him automatically without his consent if he does not want give it and be higher on the team.
It would have to be done to fix this wrong by Innova to win that large Y generation that 50% of the Disc golf players in that group back. X well not sure, they tend to use whatever works right now for discs and are smarter, they know not to buy anything Anthon related from Innova that promotes him or lets him get $$ sponsor money from it.
Complicates tax tracking for already complicated income/expense tracking for both players and sponsors.I am surprised that players and manufacturers don't push to have contracts start/end in early December in order to allow for a big new signing to sling some plastic for Christmas. If these Conrad to MVP examples are true for example, they could have had some special run Conrad Claus Envy with a fun stamp or whatever.
Complicates tax tracking for already complicated income/expense tracking for both players and sponsors.
Annual contracts would straddle tax years requiring less than 12 months of activity in two tax years. Most of the pros are not employees and have to handle their business and personal taxes plus some have International complications and state of residency issues. Keeping annual contracts within one tax year is at least one element that can be simplified plus the PDGA Tour year is calendar based for any performance elements. If you get any compensation based on sales, wouldn't you want your December holiday sales linked to the same contract year and sponsor?How so?
Whether people "hate it" or not, wouldn't what the profile of the disc golfers who buy the most discs matter? Old guys like you & I who have our bags pretty set HAVE TO be less influential to manufacturers than those Y's, Z's, millennials or whatever they are who jump on buying every new hyped mold.