Lazerface
Eagle Member
My favorite (and only) Brakelism - "Dreambagger."
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My favorite (and only) Brakelism - "Dreambagger."
Not saying it's ideal but perhaps the best option in many areas under the constraints in the system.I started doing that last year with a lot of my local events. MA40 and MA55. It really makes it nicer from an administrative standpoint. On an easy course with a max of 72 players, I get tired of having divisions of 4 people. I switched to the 15-year increment and saw a much better distribution of division sizes. I'm not sure if the players were all that happy, though. I think the MA40s were grumpy that their best player finally graduated to MA50, but with the new splits he was gonna be forced to drop back to MA40 and kick their butts again.
I started doing that last year with a lot of my local events. MA40 and MA55. It really makes it nicer from an administrative standpoint. On an easy course with a max of 72 players, I get tired of having divisions of 4 people. I switched to the 15-year increment and saw a much better distribution of division sizes. I'm not sure if the players were all that happy, though. I think the MA40s were grumpy that their best player finally graduated to MA50, but with the new splits he was gonna be forced to drop back to MA40 and kick their butts again.
If you want divisions by rating, there's no need for age divisions. A 50 year old 920 rated player is competitively the same as a 22 year old 920 rated player. There's no reason have an intermediate division for under 40s and another for 40-49, and another for 50-54, and another for 55-59, etc.
Just to clarify my position, imop the PDGA should have kept the 50-55 age groups in one division but split them into 2 based on a rating cap instead of splitting them based on age. Same thing with the 60-65 players. am40 doesn't have a am45 split, but based on the data for worlds, the same thing could be said for that age group.
Looking at pdga worlds for 2019...
This year's division totals:
am50: 58 players (lowest rated player: 768 highest: 959)
am55: 64 players (lowest rated player: 763 highest: 956)
Proposed divisions based on ages 50-55 being merged into 1 but w/ratings cap:
am50A : 57 players (Up to 899 rating)
am50B : 65 players (900 rated and up)
The resulting division sizes are just about the same, but now...there is more evenly placed competition and old dudes can still play with other old dudes. Granted, this would only be utilized when there is enough players to make it work. I also understand technically the B division would have to allow any rated players in the event just one division is offered by the TD due to not enough players. So the B division would allow some freedom by the TD to restrict to 900 rated and up only or allow any ratings.
He should change "play" to "throw" then his post would be accurate.
Streets is the smoothest throwing young player I have ever seen.
Hey, now! My Roadrunner is 166g!Really?
Do you have a Zuca cart but only 9 discs, enjoy complaining and hearing complaints non-stop, list your replacement parts and most recent surgeries before every round, refuse to acknowledge any rules created after 1994, take two minutes to catch your breath after climbing 20 feet, use a 142g driver to get a max-distance throw of 220 feet, have absolutely no interest in the standings, try to stretch out rounds to kill more time, and get most of your calories from the corn starch in Ibuprofen tablets?
Be careful who you wish to play with.
Just to clarify my position, imop the PDGA should have kept the 50-55 age groups in one division but split them into 2 based on a rating cap instead of splitting them based on age. Same thing with the 60-65 players. am40 doesn't have a am45 split, but based on the data for worlds, the same thing could be said for that age group.
Looking at pdga worlds for 2019...
This year's division totals:
am50: 58 players (lowest rated player: 768 highest: 959)
am55: 64 players (lowest rated player: 763 highest: 956)
Proposed divisions based on ages 50-55 being merged into 1 but w/ratings cap:
am50A : 57 players (Up to 899 rating)
am50B : 65 players (900 rated and up)
The resulting division sizes are just about the same, but now...there is more evenly placed competition and old dudes can still play with other old dudes. Granted, this would only be utilized when there is enough players to make it work. I also understand technically the B division would have to allow any rated players in the event just one division is offered by the TD due to not enough players. So the B division would allow some freedom by the TD to restrict to 900 rated and up only or allow any ratings.
I'm skeptical. Does his form inspire people to ask: "Are you alright?"
Well, more like, "Can't you throw any harder than that"?
There was a PDGA Major called US Mid-Nationals Championships that was ratings-based. It ran in 2005-06 at Highbridge and in 2007 in St. Louis. The divisions were set by ratings and if you were rated above a certain level you couldn't play. Highbridge was pretty new and a big deal in 2005; I knew a bunch of guys from Chicago that went up to play and it had a decent turnout. The next year the turnout tanked. Since Highbridge was so remote they moved it for year three, but even at that the turnout was poor for a major and the event was cancelled. Dave Mccormack won the last one and called it the "baggers championship". It just wasn't well received at all.Splitting age-protected divisions by rating was tried before. Nobody liked it.
Well, probably somebody liked it, but it wasn't popular enough to continue for more than a year or two.
This remains a solution in search of a problem. We amateur geezers can play with our age peers. We can play with our skill level. That should be enough choice.
As for the world championships, the thought of any ratings-based championship seems silly to me. I understand being the best of an age group, a gender, or even the best amateur. The best rated under 900? Might as well have a Novice World Championship, while you're at it.
What about separating the field into their preferred substance to consume while playing?
...and now my whole afternoon is spent coddling the hurt feelings of a grown-ass adult man.
How about bracket divisions, you know, sorta like drag racing. Once you break out of your bracket, you are forced to move up.
Require a pro card to play in any of the bracket classes. This could even improve the game as perhaps a qualifier for the pro card would be an annual rule refresher course. Maybe then we could get pros on lead card to quit breaking the rules.
The most effective setup I've seen is offering just the MP40, MP55 and MP70 options in some Florida events. I think they do it with the Ams also, MA40, MA55 and MA70.
I'm 53, I guess I will be stuck in the Advil division now.
I'm interested in learning more about this system. Can you enlighten me (or share some links that explain this well)?