blackandwhite
Double Eagle Member
not gonna read all the posts...however crying about it wont do anything. learn a flick or get the bh better, its as easy as that
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I really don't see why you are complaining over more right turns than left, seems to me you don't want a challenge.
What if your left-handed friend only threw side-arm and you were right handed and throw side arm and backhand? Or what if you're both right handed but only one of you can throw both ways? The advantage is not in which is your dominant hand, the advantage is in how many different types of shots you can accurately throw.The point isn't fear of a challenge. The point is that there is less of a challenge for those who throw with a certain hand. The issue is fairness.
What if your left-handed friend only threw side-arm and you were right handed and throw side arm and backhand? Or what if you're both right handed but only one of you can throw both ways? The advantage is not in which is your dominant hand, the advantage is in how many different types of shots you can accurately throw.
Depends on what fairly balanced is. If you somehow figure out what percentage of golfers are left handed and design all courses based on that percentage.. but that would leave you with a small number of holes that were already predetermined and it would be up to the designer to figure out where to put them or worse case scenario, cram them.
This basically concerning the Black Locust course. Or course design in general. A lot of people have me confused for HATING it, I don't really hate it, in fact I think most (90%+) holes are well designed, but as a course as a whole it doesn't work together.
This is because it has a lefty vs. righty shot ratio of at least 2 to 1. Meaning it favors lhbh or rhsa shots twice as often or even more often than lhsa or rhbh shots.
Some recent reviewers seem to think this is OK, because 'every other course favors 'rhbh' shots more often'. That's fine for them to believe that if they want.
I don't think 2 wrongs (a lefty bias course to make up for other righty bias courses) make for a right.
Every course should be fairly balanced for all players, and for more shot variety and for practice.
Well I just wanted to throw that out there.
Your argument has nothing to do with the nature of the course. Obviously, a player with more throws is going to score better than a player without.
If you compare two players of equal skill throwing opposite handed from each other, the course that has more left-to-right holes is going to favor the left-handed thrower and that shouldn't be. The balanced course will naturally favor the player who has more shots.
Wait What is Par?
Based on your post, I'm guessing you do not have a good anhyzer or forehand shot, therefore calling it a LHBH only shot. There is no such thing as a RHBH only shot, same for LH. Use a roller, a tomahawk, a thumber, a forehand, a hyzer, an anhyzer; that is disc golf. If we only had to throw straight shots and hyzers all the time I would probably quit this game right now because that is boring. My example is this one:
Hole 17 at Red Oak in MN goes uphill, turns left, and then goes about 350 feet straight with trees in the way. Now most people would say this is a rhbh shot, they are wrong. I have thrown a rhbh on this, a rhfh, a thumber, and a roller. Biased throwers see one line, I look to the left and see above a small tree, a narrow opening for a rhfh shot. I took that shot last night and had the best first shot on that hole I've had for a while. The other was not even a backhand, it was a thumber to the right with an epic that faded left.
I really don't see why you are complaining over more right turns than left, seems to me you don't want a challenge.
I agree with blackandwhite, learn a side arm or work over a heavily anhyzered rhbackhand and it will stay going to the right for you. Playing a course that makes you try new shots only improves your game. If every hole was a short dogleg to the left you'd never improve or be challenged.
I think people are getting caught up on the word "fair." IMO, it's not about being "fair," it's about requireing a variety of shots. If one type of shot can get you a good lie on most of the holes, it's not a particularly interesting course to play. I can go to a field if I want to work on hyzers, anhyzers, sidearm shots or straight shots. A course that requires lots of differnent shots and rewards line shaping skills it's just a better and more interesting course to play than one where a good anhyzer/hyzer/thumber/whatever will get you a birdie on 12 holes.
I think it's just a different type of course, it forces you to throw differently than you would on another course and adds a bit of variety. I like Black Locust a lot being a sidearm thrower and it's a great compliment to Hudson Mills (I'll be playing both today actually...). I don't care if a course is "fair", as long as it's fun.