Hazards

[oldmandiscer]

I think what event organizers is brilliant in a lot of cases. Certainly not perfect like Winthrop - that OB nonsense is a bit over the top. However it's stepping us away from the old and crusty ball golf model that's currently falling apart with courses closing everywhere and that's a good thing. We need to be doing our own thing. DG is growing up and its time to move out of the ball golf house.

Ball golf has nothing to do with it. I'm talking about watching players do things that only they can do. That's why people watch sports and the real exciting plays are above and beyond the norm. Things like parking a 650 foot hole with a long roller. You are limiting the players because the OB is too big of a penalty. Better to layup and take the easy 3.

Same with the raised baskets and the OB right next to it. You are basically forcing players to layup and most will unless they are close.

The trend is to limit aggressive plays in favor of smart boring ones to stay in bounds.

It's not shocking that Simon has the largest personal youtube channel. He often will play the aggressive crazy route (crazy to us anyways) and does things on his channel that we have never seen. That's why people watch.

They don't tune in to see 300 foot hyzers and 15 foot tap ins.

 

[davetherocketguy]

I think Simon has a large following because he makes a lot of videos and a lot of them are crazy trick shot videos. I don't think he has a lot of followers because of his play on the course.

 

[oldmandiscer]

I think Simon has a large following because he makes a lot of videos and a lot of them are crazy trick shot videos. I don't think he has a lot of followers because of his play on the course.

I would say it's a bit of both. He throws trick shots on the course on occasion during tournaments. A shot he maybe created or at least coined like the skomohawk (sp?). During a skins match he threw this absolutely crazy sky anny not sure if you seen it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H27mR_YM7Nw

 

[DiscFifty]

You are ignoring the topic. The topic is about courses the pro's play and the setups themselves.

Have you created any posts on Facebook on the DGPT or PDGA pages yet?

 

[joecoin]

Ball golf has nothing to do with it. I'm talking about watching players do things that only they can do. That's why people watch sports and the real exciting plays are above and beyond the norm....

Unlike a boring perfect game in baseball?
Or a snooze fest of a 300 game in bowling?
Maybe a nine-dart finish?
Perhaps a maximum break in snooker?
Or an incredibly boring golden set in tennis?


Yeah, count me out. I'm tired of watching -18 disc golf rounds. Happens way too often, since putting is so easy.

 

[DavidSauls]

Have you created any posts on Facebook on the DGPT or PDGA pages yet?

As soon as the ink's dry, someone should tell Discraft that people find the top levels of the sport too boring to watch, and there's no advancement going on.

 

[davetherocketguy]

As soon as the ink's dry, someone should tell Discraft that people find the top levels of the sport too boring to watch, and there's no advancement going on.

Yeah that $10 Mill contract that Paul just signed is a sure sign that DG is way too boring lol

:clap:

 

[DavidSauls]

Yeah that $10 Mill contract that Paul just signed is a sure sign that DG is way too boring lol

:clap:

If people cared to watch, he'd be worth real money to Discraft.

 

[oldmandiscer]

Unlike a boring perfect game in baseball?
Or a snooze fest of a 300 game in bowling?
Maybe a nine-dart finish?
Perhaps a maximum break in snooker?
Or an incredibly boring golden set in tennis?


Yeah, count me out. I'm tired of watching -18 disc golf rounds. Happens way too often, since putting is so easy.

The problem is that it's simply too easy to make birdies and making bogeys is a rare thing.

Yes it does end up come down to putting. Because 1 putting is the norm and you rarely see 3 putts the scoring separation is simply not there. Players are not challenged inside of 33 feet.

What creates more drama? Everyone birdieing a hole on the lead card or having one player birdie, two par and one bogey?

What is your ideal birdie percentage on the avg hole? Do you like 60%?

 

[oldmandiscer]

If people cared to watch, he'd be worth real money to Discraft.

It's not that it still isn't a great sport to watch, it's that it could be exceptional.

 

[Jay Dub]

The problem is that it's simply too easy to make birdies and making bogeys is a rare thing.

So this is your point? Well why didn't you just say that...


...Oh yeah, you have over and over and over and over and etc.

 

[oldmandiscer]

So this is your point? Well why didn't you just say that...


...Oh yeah, you have over and over and over and over and etc.

So what makes a good hole to you?

What percent of birdies do you like seeing on the avg hole (scoring separation)?

 

[Jay Dub]

*yawn*

 

[oldmandiscer]

*yawn*

So you are not able to answer a simple question? Do you go through life having no opinions on everything?

 

[Jay Dub]

*yawn*

 

[DavidSauls]

It's not that it still isn't a great sport to watch, it's that it could be exceptional.

I thought it was boring. Is it great and boring?

 

[oldmandiscer]

I thought it was boring. Is it great and boring?

Putting is boring. Fake OB and raised baskets are gimmicky. Fix those and it's exceptional.

 

[oldmandiscer]

*yawn*

You should get more sleep old man.

 

[ru4por]

Christ, just landfill this already. It is just a continuation of the larger basket thread now. The very exclusive, personal preference, beat to death here is esoteric at best. Due to the pragmatic inability of application, the conversation warrants little other than a few minutes of preference discussion.

OMD is not interested in changing anything. He does not like pro disc golf the way it is. He is alone. Do we need another thread, of weeks of his making up facts, pontificating on a problem that does not exist, with proposals that are impractical?

I suggest trying to fire up your old larger basket thread, instead of highjacking every other one.

 

[Jay Dub]

Christ, just landfill this already. It is just a continuation of the larger basket thread now. The very exclusive, personal preference, beat to death here is esoteric at best. Due to the pragmatic inability of application, the conversation warrants little other than a few minutes of preference discussion.

OMD is not interested in changing anything. He does not like pro disc golf the way it is. He is alone. Do we need another thread, of weeks of his making up facts, pontificating on a problem that does not exist, with proposals that are impractical?

I suggest trying to fire up your old larger basket thread, instead of highjacking every other one.

Don't let this get to you so much. I'm eating lunch and heading out for my 1st round of golf 2021. Well, not really. My first round of throwing discs at trees and the front of the basket but I'm still looking forward to it.