If the Champion PD were a mainstream Innova disc I think it would be incedibly popular. Most of the pro's I play with have an OOP that flies a lot like my C-PD. Stable CE FLs and Eagles, broken in Proline Firebirds (more glide than others since), and X Preds all fly a lot like the C-PD flies out of the box. Also, a lot of pros like to carry an more overstable Teebird than normal runs. I can't wait till I see Kenny and make him throw mine.