I did say the second part up above.
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[Discraft] Understable Compliment to the Buzzz
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I did say the second part up above.
I have to agree with the meteor. It feels like the buzz and flies like it's alter ego.
I already have an Elite-X Stratus for the super understable duties like hyzer-flip turnovers and just throwing it high and to the left knowing it will come sailing back down to the right. I'm thinking the Fuse sounds like it will fit nicely between this and my Buzzz.
Couldn't agree more. My beat in Nebs and Fuse work splendidly together.
Frank Delicious
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I tested one of each. My GL one was kinda domey though.
jtencer
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Why is the comet being different than the buzz a bad thing? You want them to do different things. If you are looking for an understable mid, why not go with the best?
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b/c it requires a whole different throwing style. You want discs that compliment each other, not two mids you have to throw completely differently.
Cooler Will
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Don't believe the hype.
The glide is what you need.
The glide is what you need.
I carry a Glide, but it's a little too understable for what I'm looking for. I use it for line shaping hyzer flips and turnovers, but there is too great a risk of it rolling if I try for a pure anhyzer.
I throw a Stingray as my understable mid. But I totally get what people are saying about not wanting to have to throw completely differently to get the desired results. And the Stingray is so different in feel and shape that I'm going to have to pay close attention to this thread and possibly consider a different complement to the Buzzzzzzzz.
Yea, if you want a more buzzz like disc go with the meteor. Comets do require more finess but i don't mind, even though i do consider myself a power player.
Exactly
Get an X buzzz.
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Actually that is like the opposite of good advice. If you want to throw a comet, get a slow stable mid to compliment it. If you have a fast stable mid, get a fast understable mid. The less adjusting you have to do between discs, the better.
Because comets are not understable.
agent_peebody
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your logic makes sense, but i'm still going to argue.
Frank is right on here. Mold minimalism aside, you absolutely must have some speed class/flight characteristic organization to your bag to develop touch and accuracy. You can't just throw a bunch of random discs together, all different speeds/flight characteristics, and expect to get anything but lucky. You also have to consider other aspects of throwing mechanics such as nose angle, arm vs. snap, etc. On every one of these aspects, the Comet is different than the Buzzz. The throw power and line that takes a Buzzz to 300' will have the Comet grounding out at about 250', but give the Comet 10' more of height and it may go 330'-340'. Use little arm and only snap and the Comet can glide up to 300', but the Buzzz will only go 250' before it drops with the same throw. Whichever of these discs you learn touch with will end up taking over all shots, and the other will have be relegated to a single shot. You cannot learn and throw both with equal ability (unless perhaps they were the only two discs in your entire bag).
Secondly, the Comet is a stable disc, not an understable disc, and so is the Buzzz. If the Comet is understable for you (and is not beat or in the 160s), then you are throwing it wrong (perhaps like a Buzzz) and it will not be predictable.
These are the reasons why the Fuse (and even the Meteor) are a better fit with the Buzzz. The same power and line will yield a similar distance and flight with the only different variable being stability. This way you can use the same "touch" you've learned with the Buzzz and simply get the more understable flights you are looking for.
matrix2113
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Go with a Z Glide, it holds its annhyzer line the whole way through, is realiable, and never ever flips back on me. Unlike the meteor, the glide needs a lot less power to hold its annhyzer line the whole way through and has proven very reliable for a compliment to an overstable mid range. It's a great disc.
I find these to take a long time to beat in to the point where you can throw touch annies rather than torque-over annies. Even when they do get beat enough, they don't lift as they turn. The result is a shot that goes straight out on a hyzer, flips up, and then quickly fades right (almost like a new Buzzz has a small, quick fade left at the very end of a straight flight). It doesn't get the lateral understable movement of the Fuse/Meteor, which both get lift (due to wing design) as they turn over.
I'll second or third the idea of keeping one's mids simillar I speed. I took this advice from frank and it's shown results
I was gonna say meteor, but I'm really curious about the fuse thing- it was toted as a comet wannbe? I'm now guessin it's faster? So like a mako?
I was gonna say meteor, but I'm really curious about the fuse thing- it was toted as a comet wannbe? I'm now guessin it's faster? So like a mako?
