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From that pic it looks like their is a smooth transition from rim to the center of the disc. And it also appeared to have some dome. Didn't look like a felon for example. That is just what I saw.
I did this again last night at dubs.Last night i had one of the big arms throw my Longbowman and Saint Pro back to back so I could see how they acted with some power on them.
Saint Pro had a lot of turn before fighting back, and the Longbowman barley had any high speed wiggle at all.
it was just straight, long flight with some fade.
Now that I have some throws on it, heres what my noodle arm says about the 2 on a calm day.
Saint pro goes straight, with a big gliding fade.
Longbowman goes straight (not quite as far) with a hard, shorter dumping fade, with some skip.
I have spent some time playing in the wind (both heavy and super heavy winds) and the Longbowman didn't care, when the saint pro would move around a lot (but usually fight back)
I am really digging the Longbowman because it's fitting perfectly in between my saint pros and my xxx
I did this again last night at dubs.
Chandler Fry (sponsored lat64 pro, for those that don't know him)
Was walking with us for most of the round, and I had him smash both my Saint Pro and Longbowman flat and hard.
Saint Pro rolled over like a dog wanting it's belly rubbed, and didn't come back.
The Longbowman just had a tiny amount of slide to the right, but mostly went straight for days before finishing up with a nice little fade.
That was the first time he had thrown one, and he said he really liked it.
VIP, I assume?
Appearance: Looks just like a felon top, similar to spark just has a slightly sharper edge than the sparks, xxx and trident.
Feel: The slight bevel/bead thing on the rim as it transitions to the inside of the rim is what gives this disc such a consistent release.
Flight: Felt like a felon coming out of my hand. But it continued with some more turn sucking into a straight golf line than hooked back.
Comments: I would describe this as a Saint Pro X. Or maybe a Westside version of the spark. Feels really good in the hand. A very nice stable/overstable fairway driver that is neither short or very long.
My flight chart: 8.3.-1.3
Discs tested: Two 167 gram, Tourney Plastic smoke color. Nice looking plastic.
So much competition here in this category. I could see gold line sparks being very similiar. Even my tridents are similiar to this just not as fast.
I really want to try to work this into my bag. But said to myself that when the spark goes goldline it will the one that gets this spot.
Lastly, heard this being compared to a banshee. Maybe. It is slightly faster, definitely longer and not as os. It has more turn than a banshee. But comes back like one later in the flight.
I have decided for the sake of science and potential lower scores to artificially beat the crap out of my 169g white TP
I have a slightly textured floor in my garage and will be throwing the heck of this thing into it. Probably going with 20-25 throws to start and see how it flies.
I think a beat in TP could be magic.
Sure have.Has anyone thrown this against a Culverin for comparison?
Has anyone thrown this against a Culverin for comparison?
I have 175g TP Longbowman and a 175g Opto Culverin. Flight-wise I really can't tell a difference. They landed within a 3m circle. They feel different though. The Longbowman has a very flat top, the rim isn't the most common - see the pictures above. I actually do prefer the Longbowman over the Culverin (but I also have no issue with the Blitz or Riot).
Compared to SaintPro, Stag, Northman, Striker both of them are more overstable without an uncomfortable fade at the end. You can turn them over in a headwind, but they never get lost all the way, or at least they put up a fight. You can produce nice flex shots - but you have to give them quite a bit of anhyzer on the release. Released flat you either need headwind or more power than me to make them turn.
Compared to the xXx (I don't have a Felon) they feel a lot less utility disc. Longer, more glide. They should fill the Spot between the SaintPro, Striker... perfectly.
I can''t compare to PD, Thunderbird, FD, I never had one of those.
For reference - they went between 80-100m for me.
A quote from a recent post on this thread-
"I have decided for the sake of science and potential lower scores to artificially beat the crap out of my 169g white TP
I have a slightly textured floor in my garage and will be throwing the heck of this thing into it. Probably going with 20-25 throws to start and see how it flies.
I think a beat in TP could be magic"
Is your head so far up your "" that you take a expensive disc and foolishy bang it in to the ground. It is no wonder your scores are dismal.
If a disc is not turning not working for you etc.. drop down in stabllity. I don't think you really have a clue.
Here is what your doing-your causing the disc to have more wobble because of the dented out of linear rim. It is not only slower but less stable. Of course it makes the disc more flippy is their any way to make a disc more os. No!