Floating Discs

[Bikinimower]

Never tried one. For some reason I just assumed they wouldn't be any good.

Well I found a Wahoo the other day with no name or number and gave it a try, I really liked it. The course I normally play has a few water hazards and it was nice to be able to go balls out and not be a little timid or conservative when throwing over water. (For the record I'm not a complete coward, I do throw it over the water I just don't recklessly rip em)

My question is this: If you throw it and it lands in the water and you patiently wait for it to wash ashore in bounds on its own, do you have to take a penalty stroke? Technically you didn't go out there and physically move it, that is where the disc naturally ended up.

 

[jkdisc]

mine dont usually float to land, i get wet even if it floats

 

[medicinalfunk]

i like floating discs because when someone's worst disc-golf related hydrophobia nightmare comes true and they throw one in, i can say "hey man, i can see your disc floating in the middle of the lake out there!"

what if it gets carried down a waterfall, down a river, 5 or 6 holes down the course?!

 

[simpletwist]

Technically I believe you must play the disc from where it crossed into the hazard and yes its a penalty stroke.

 

[DrenalinJunkie]

I have a Wahoo in my bag and ever now and then (If I play a course I have never played) it will get used over water. But if I am on a course I have played and I dunk one........... It is usually about the time to cool off anyway!

As far as the penalty stroke, I would think yes it is counted as a stroke and you take your lie at the last place it was over land.

 

[aardvarkious]

The disc is considered "at rest" when it is moving only because of the force of water.

 

[Midnightbiker]

I keep a Wahoo, and a Hydra in my bag. I use my Hydra for putting and approaching on holes like this, where the basket is very close to water:

I have missed this basket a few times, and have had my disc end up in the creek. The sides of the creek are pretty steep, so the Golden retriever works good at fishing it out.

On this same course, a creek skirts hole 10, and if it goes in down the fairway, there if really no way to see where it goes in. My golden retriever can get floating discs out of the water, so I say they do have their place at some courses. Its nice insurance.

 

[DanJon]

i used to carry a water disc. now i think that idea is self defeating because if you're pulling out your floater to throw over water then you're already thinking that you might just put it in the water. ya know?

 

[Lamp]

i used to carry a water disc. now i think that idea is self defeating because if you're pulling out your floater to throw over water then you're already thinking that you might just put it in the water. ya know?

I like your thinking there. Honestly though, I'm better off just going in for the floater, or any disc for that matter, that I throw into a water hazard. The wahoo can take a LONG time to get carried to the shore, it's faster to just get a little wet.

In a situation where it's a deep creekbed like what midnight posted, then it doesn't matter whether it's a floater or not, you're not going to be able to reach it without getting wet. Unless you have a golden retriever on hand.

 

[atl scott]

The wahoo is a great long range floater. I too try to always throw my regular disc for any given shot. If I need to play it safe I will.

And Flyboy is the only course I've gone swimming just for the sake of swimming lol. That course gets hot in the summer!

 

[Brall]

i haven't found a floater disc that i really liked, but the floater disc that flew the best for me was a #3 Slice

and as for you OB question:

803.09 Out-of-Bounds
A. A disc shall be considered out-of-bounds only when it comes to rest and it is clearly and
completely surrounded by the out-of-bounds area. A disc thrown in water shall be deemed to be
at rest once it is floating or is moving only by the action of the water or the wind on the
water. See section 803.03 F. The out-of-bounds line itself is considered out-of --bounds. In order to consider the disc as out-of bounds, there must be reasonable evidence that the disc came to rest within the out-of-bounds area. In the absence of such evidence, the disc will be considered lost and the player will proceed according to rule 803.11B.

B. A player whose disc is considered out-of-bounds shall receive one penalty throw. The player may elect to play the next shot from:
(1) The previous lie as evidenced by the marker disc or, if the marker disc has been moved from an approximate lie, as agreed to by the majority of the group or an official; or (2) A lie that is up to one meter away from and perpendicular to the point where the disc last crossed into out-of-bounds, as determined by a majority of the group or an official. This holds true even if the direction takes the
lie closer to the hole; or (3) Within the designated Drop Zone, if provided. These options may be limited by the tournament director as a special condition (see 804.01).

C. The Rule of Verticality. The out-of-bounds line represents a vertical plane. Where a player's
lie is marked from a particular point within one meter of the out-of-bounds line pursuant to
the rules, the one-meter relief may be taken from the particular point upward or downward along
the vertical plane.

D. If the in-bounds status of a disc is uncertain, either a majority of the group or an
official shall make the determination. If the thrower moves the disc before a determination has
been made, the disc shall be considered out-of-bounds, and he or she shall proceed in
accordance with 803.09 B counting all throws made prior to the determination of the in-bounds status of the original lie. If a player other than the thrower moves the disc before a
determination has been made, the disc shall be considered in-bounds, and play for the thrower
and the mover of the disc shall proceed under the rules of interference, 803.07 B and C.

edit: here's a link

 

[prerube]

If you are patiently waiting, then you have broken another rule. You do not have all day to retrieve your disc and throw your next shot.
It is OB where it went out. If it crossed, hit land, and rolled back in, then you get to cross the water.

 

[Brall]

It is OB where it went out. If it crossed, hit land, and rolled back in, then you get to cross the water.

keep in mind there are three choices on what to do for OB (of course a drop zone is not always available, so generally two choices)

depending on the course, sometimes it's best to throw from the last position if the footing is more sure. a lot of the time, the land slopes in towards the water and even with the meter relief it can be a pain to try to get full driving distance when needed.

 

[DiscJunkie]

The water on our course is shallow (2'-3'), but really nasty.
I don't throw floaters anymore, so i just go in and get it when it gets wet.
Thankfully, this doesn't happen very often.

 

[prerube]

I just hold out my hand and yell "Accio leopard" and it comes flying into my hand.

 

[Bikinimower]

I just hold out my hand and yell "Accio leopard" and it comes flying into my hand.

Ha! Dork!

I feel like a dork just because I know what that means

 

[MrFixIt]

I keep a Wahoo, and a Hydra in my bag. I use my Hydra for putting and approaching on holes like this, where the basket is very close to water:

I have missed this basket a few times, and have had my disc end up in the creek. The sides of the creek are pretty steep, so the Golden retriever works good at fishing it out.

On this same course, a creek skirts hole 10, and if it goes in down the fairway, there if really no way to see where it goes in. My golden retriever can get floating discs out of the water, so I say they do have their place at some courses. Its nice insurance.

Is this course in Texas midnight?
It looks exactly like a hole at Victor Lord Park in Barrow Co., GA! The course is no longer viable since most of the baskets have been taken down and the fairways are overgrown.

 

[ErflesMcBride]

i know i carry a wahoo, but my friend is completely against it, he waits until the team we are paired up with throws one in the water, then he gets to go in and keeps it

 

[prerube]

i know i carry a wahoo, but my friend is completely against it, he waits until the team we are paired up with throws one in the water, then he gets to go in and keeps it

Not cool. you know who's disc it is it should be returned.

 

[Midnightbiker]

Is this course in Texas midnight?
It looks exactly like a hole at Victor Lord Park in Barrow Co., GA! The course is no longer viable since most of the baskets have been taken down and the fairways are overgrown.

Thats hole # 9 at the Windwood Church course in Houston, TX


Here is hole # 8, and its almost as bad. Miss the putt, and your in the creek behind the basket: