DG_Before_Breakfast
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Cool IMO.
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Is this a cool picture or offensive?
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So, is MB really back? or did his account get hacked to post this thread.. has he posted anywhere else? is he coming back to respond? we miss you midnightbiker!
That's why I very controversially do not support the troops aka military nuthuggery, because there should be less veterans not more. If the government isn't going to support the troops by keeping them out of needless wars/conflicts and by sticking them into garbage VA hospitals and throwing them on the streets then I'm not going to encourage more people to sign up for exploitation. You guys can bro-hug each other to Toby Keith songs while the rich get richer off poor men fighting but leave me out of it. F*$& no, not today, thank you kindly.
That pic is the cat's ass!
Just out of curiosity: For those who have qualified their answers to the question by stating that they're veterans, do you think this makes you a better judge of who should (or could) be offended by the OP?
I don't like Toby Keith actually. In general I'm not a big country music fan, (although I do love Zac Brown Band) and while I could be suckered in by you trying to use stereotypes to bait an argument, instead I'll pass on some wisdom imparted to me as I grew up a (proud) Navy brat.
When our men and women serving don't agree with the president, they're told to "salute the uniform, not the man". The president is the Commander In Chief of the military, and so everyone else must respect that position.
I advise you to do the same. I don't like that the same people who defend your right to bash their choices are the ones that come back to the short end of the stick financially, and oftentimes mentally...but I thank every damn one of them for their service and I respect the hell out of their choice to intentionally put themselves in a position to risk their lives for me and you.
To any of our disc golfing vets on here, sincerely thank you for everything you've sacrificed for all of us.
John Q. Public
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Some goals of propaganda:
+ partition society
+ dissociate the individual from his intellect and goals
+ create myths around people and leaders
+ appeal to hope/fear/anger/justice to provoke action w/out thought
+ etc
+ etc
+ etc
so the OP who dropped this propaganda or more specifically this domestic, vertical, irrational, sociological, agitation propaganda upon this forum has averaged one post a day for the last 23.84 years. RIGHT.
I can misuse statistics for an ad hominem argument too.
Number of months you've been a registered user: 5.5
Number of months OP has been a registered user: 96
Number of interactions I've had with you before now: 0
Number of interactions I've had with OP before now: >1
My trust level in your "objectivity": 0
So as you can see my numbers to the OP are far higher than my numbers to you. Which is exactly as statistically significant as your numbers about his posts are. Therefore, my conclusion is bananas, which is what you are.
Wrong stereotype here Bro, I am not into country music at all and am definitely not pro war by an means. You seem to be talking about the Government sending them to fight senseless wars which has nothing to do with my point about once they return. I am talking about the ones that can't walk down the street without seeing, hearing or smelling something that triggers a flashback. You can see it in their eyes, the memories that won't go away are what holds them back. It's like when something traumatic happens too a young child and they are affected by it for life. I saw a Documentary recently where some vets found that pot takes all of that away and puts it into the back of their mind so that they can move forward and try to have a normal life. Most of these guys had never smoked pot in their entire life but now swear by it because of the way it treats their PTSD. World War I, II and the Civil War were the only ones where war was the only option in my opinion. Enough of this Depressing subject for me.
Shipley
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The original picture represents a hard fought victory thousands of soldiers died for. Even more were injured, and many died and their bodies were never recovered, so yeah it's definitely offensive.
Everyone railing against Bro D, you do realize that in his post he basically said that vets deserve more care when they get back.
His problem seems to lie in the fact that certain members of the government have no problem sending our troops off to war but not taking care of them once they are done with their service. Plenty of lip service is paid to supporting the troops, yet they don't follow through on that.
Instead of getting all up in arms, maybe take a step back first.
His problem seems to lie in the fact that certain members of the government have no problem sending our troops off to war but not taking care of them once they are done with their service. Plenty of lip service is paid to supporting the troops, yet they don't follow through on that.
Instead of getting all up in arms, maybe take a step back first.
Hampstead
* Ace Member *
Who is railing? Who is up in arms?All I said mentioned in my original statement was how vets with PTSD from the Iraq war were coming back changed into a different person than the one that left and many wind up divorced and living without their family. Then Bro started railing about unjust wars tries the old stereo type trick by telling us to keep listening to Toby Keith and I was just talking about damaged troop losing everything, not freaking politics. Just because someone takes the side of vets that need help doesn't mean that that person fits Daves red neck stereotype. :|
No one is "railing against" anybody. He walked into a conversation and took an abrasive stance and quoted me, even though funny enough we are probably in agreement in our stance on war.
In fact the latter half of your post is exactly what I said pages ago...
So I have let this stew for long enough.
This past weekend I drove all the way to Oklahoma to attend the funeral of a good friend I was in the Marines with who chose to take his own life. It was the first time a lot of us have seen each other since I left the Corps in 2007. However, it was like we had just seen each other the day before, even though it had been nigh on a decade. We came there to support Sgt. Griffith's family, and I could tell it really meant a lot to them that we were there. We showed them what true brotherhood was about. At the end of the service, we all dropped and knocked out 22 push-ups in honor of Griffith and the 22 veteran's a day who take their own lives. His mother was in tears but his dad was all smiles watching a bunch of crusty old Marines forget their aches and pains and beer bellies for just one moment.
I'm not telling you this and posting these pictures to pull at your heart strings. I'm doing it because you'll never understand. if you even have to debate it, you will never understand.
The picture you are basing the design on was staged. The original flag raising was not caught on film. The second flag raising on Mount Suribachi was done exclusively to give Marines something to aspire to for untold generations to come. Every Marines knows this. And we don't care. it's our symbol. Not yours. It's not a joke. It's not cute. You can give me a million reasons why I shouldn't take it so seriously, but it won't matter. And you will never understand why.
There are countless other famous photos that you could throw a disc golf basket into. Just not this one.
That's my opinion. Debate as you please but nothing you will say will change my mind.
This past weekend I drove all the way to Oklahoma to attend the funeral of a good friend I was in the Marines with who chose to take his own life. It was the first time a lot of us have seen each other since I left the Corps in 2007. However, it was like we had just seen each other the day before, even though it had been nigh on a decade. We came there to support Sgt. Griffith's family, and I could tell it really meant a lot to them that we were there. We showed them what true brotherhood was about. At the end of the service, we all dropped and knocked out 22 push-ups in honor of Griffith and the 22 veteran's a day who take their own lives. His mother was in tears but his dad was all smiles watching a bunch of crusty old Marines forget their aches and pains and beer bellies for just one moment.
I'm not telling you this and posting these pictures to pull at your heart strings. I'm doing it because you'll never understand. if you even have to debate it, you will never understand.
The picture you are basing the design on was staged. The original flag raising was not caught on film. The second flag raising on Mount Suribachi was done exclusively to give Marines something to aspire to for untold generations to come. Every Marines knows this. And we don't care. it's our symbol. Not yours. It's not a joke. It's not cute. You can give me a million reasons why I shouldn't take it so seriously, but it won't matter. And you will never understand why.
There are countless other famous photos that you could throw a disc golf basket into. Just not this one.
That's my opinion. Debate as you please but nothing you will say will change my mind.
Not Soldiers. Marines. I know to someone who isn't a Marine it may sound like a stupid difference, but not for us.
teemkey
* Ace Member *
Not offended at all. It's funny taken in the right light.
Metaphorically, it's supposed to represent the rising of a new era, or time, which is cool.
Disc is growing and will crush some of the outdated sports of our time, in time.
Metaphorically, it's supposed to represent the rising of a new era, or time, which is cool.
Disc is growing and will crush some of the outdated sports of our time, in time.
