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Why all the concern about all the Innova hate?
Hate 'em, throw 'em, do your thing.
Hate 'em, throw 'em, do your thing.
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Why all the concern about all the Innova hate?
Hate 'em, throw 'em, do your thing.
Why all the concern about other's concern about all the Innova hate?
Watch the underpants gnomes episode of South Park, I feel that is a good analogy for how people view companies like Innova (Harbucks in the episode) and the small companies (Tweak's Coffee).
My only real dislike of Innova is their marketing strategy, stuffing every Dicks, MC Sporting Goods, Meijers, Walmart, etc... with high speed drivers and telling new potential players how far they will go. I think they do a bit of a disservice to the game by creating "chuckers" and uninformed noobs. I know I dropped a small chunk of change early on for some high speed failures.
But in the end it is about what works for you, what feels good to you and what gives you the ability to improve. I love carrying my mixed bag of goodies, a little Innova, some Discraft, sprinkle in some MVP and color me good. Would love to go all Michigan and throw Discraft and MVP only, but I am not paid to do so and a couple Innova molds work for me, so they stay.
I just want to know why all the hate?
The beveled edge pat was a bs pat imho.
It held the sport back and was not a very cool thing to do.
Its easier to spend time becoming a 970 rated hater than a 970 rated DGer and folks wanna be good at something.
I'll be honest, I love the Swedish plastic..and Discraft Midranges. That being said, I will always have a Teebird and a Leopard in my bag, so I don't necessarily hate Innova. But I do have a major problem with the inconsistencies. Most recently: the Tern. I have a CFR Tern, early run, and it is awesome. I can bomb that disc. Then the stock-stamps came out and they are all completely different. The first batch was a true -4, 2 for the HSS/LSS as designed. The new Champ stock stamps say -2, 2 ... which is VERY different. Now the Star terns are out, with a printed -4, 2. I have not thrown one to see what it throws like, but this is pretty inconsistent. AND it is inconsistent enough to where different plastics are having different flight numbers stamped on them. In my opinion, the current champion stock stamps are NOT Terns. But Innova will continue to call them Terns because it's the newest disc and they want to sell the heck out of it.
Those of us that have played disc golf for 8+ years have noticed severe inconsistencies between Innova's "runs" of the same mold. Now we can clearly see Innova acknowledging this via flight numbers printed on stock stamps, but without making any sort of mention elsewhere. In essence, they know there's a problem, but they don't want to fix it, because they want to sell the disc the way it is. It would not surprise me in the slightest for the next batch of champ Terns to come out like the originals or heck, even farther away from the stability of the original.
Bottom line: no other Teebird I've ever had flies like my SE Teebirds. If I lose my Champ Leopard, I'm going to have to find another light sparkle champ CFR Leopard, because a stock champ Leopard will fly differently. I almost expect it from Innova. If I love my tourney stamp Z-Buzzz, I can go find another Z-Buzzz and it will fly the same. I've noticed very little inconsistencies from other manufacturers, though they are surely there.
And I'll leave you with one word that will sum up many people's feelings on Innova's inconsistency: Destrulcan.