Star Shark
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Timmy Gill was also a solid commentator back on his DGTV website.
Old schoolers may remember the old DiscTV show that Brian Sullivan used to produce that aired on various cable channels about 10-12 years ago. It was the true precursor to the Clash videos, youtube channel coverage, live streaming coverage and the Emerging Sports Network program. In each episode, they'd have video coverage of a final 9/18 at a given tournament. During the round, the commentary was live (even though the show was edited) just like Terry does on Smashboxx. Brian usually corralled a player who didn't make the cut to walk with him and provide color commentary.
Bar none, of all the episodes I watched, Ken Climo providing the color during the Masters Cup final was the best I have heard. I think it was the only time he did it, because it wasn't often Climo wasn't playing those final 9s if he was at the tournament. The way he discussed disc angles to negotiate the elevation and fast greens at Dela was educational to say the least.
I would love to see/hear him in a Johnny Miller type role if miracle of miracles occur and disc golf can get full on TV coverage, PGA-style.
- I'm willing to bet none of you know the real history with lcgm8. I'm not going to talk about other people's business, as I've never met the man...but suffice to say nobody on this thread is remotely close to correct. Jussi even said this,
^^ Don't care about the feud, just want to say that you produce some of the best, if not THE best tourney videos in disc golf. Love your work, and it's too bad that you are feeling the need to post here for the first time under these circumstances. Keep those vids coming!
It's pretty crappy that people got attacked for not knowing the history and assuming it was a media/money thing, and now it turns out they were probably right. I'm glad to hear part of your side, mainly because we only had speculation and SpinTV's side. Spintv shouldn't mean to spin the truth. There's usually two sides to every story, and somewhere in the middle is the truth. In this instance the truth seems pretty obvious, and maybe not so much in the middle.Hi guys, first time here and sorry post to replay for this kind of ranting.
Since JMeresmaa keeps topic up in Finland, why don't you Jamie share the light and tell "the real history".
I don't have to bet, I know the real history with JMeresmaa and told already 1,5 years ago I will never work with SpinTV again. And You guys knew pretty well after releasing media rules, that I will not film anything there. And yeah, my house is 10 miles from the course.
By not going to talk about and still telling about it... money talks.
Thanks, I don't care either to touch this subject, but guess I have to do it later. Right now filming $50 video production. Nothing to see but disc golf.
^^ Don't care about the feud, just want to say that you produce some of the best, if not THE best tourney videos in disc golf. Love your work, and it's too bad that you are feeling the need to post here for the first time under these circumstances. Keep those vids coming!
You literally are the pioneer of great youtube disc golf footage.
It's pretty crappy that people got attacked for not knowing the history and assuming it was a media/money thing, and now it turns out they were probably right. I'm glad to hear part of your side, mainly because we only had speculation and SpinTV's side. Spintv shouldn't mean to spin the truth. There's usually two sides to every story, and somewhere in the middle is the truth. In this instance the truth seems pretty obvious, and maybe not so much in the middle.
Lcgm8 has never called me a "keyboard warrior" and told me to shut up and be grateful for whatever coverage he provided.
:doh::doh::doh: You guys might be reading a bit more into what JT actually said than what he actually said; cut the guy some slack, all we really did was berate SpinTV for not providing a live stream or round coverage everyday, both of which are things their channel has not done since day one. We did get final round coverage, which wasn't the best video they've ever made but is certainly at least adequate. They put a lot of time and resources into the Insider Show, and while it wasn't necessarily my cup of tea, it seems like they did a pretty good job, and definitely did the closest thing to a professional-style coverage video that we've all seen. Now, would it have been better to have that after seeing the actual rounds? Yes, but that's still the direction they chose to go.
And then rather than be courteous in expressing our collective desire for full round coverage and not liking the Insider Show, everyone decided to dump on SpinTV and tell them that all the effort/resources they put into the Insider Show was wasted. So please forgive JT for being more than slightly PO'ed at a bunch of people who just told him that something he's put a lot of time and energy into is trash :doh:
It just didn't work. People saying so doesn't make them keyboard jockeys or internet arsonists. The consumers of a product showed their displeasure in the manufacturer's attempt at reinventing the wheel.